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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5096

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Not sold on extending Dale at all. Let alone 2 years
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • Rocket Science
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 4851

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      A bit frustrating to see the likes of Dale & Williams on that list because we can't turn them into regular senior footballers, particularly when we're fanging for some run and carry.
      BORDERLINE FLYING

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14883

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        A bit frustrating to see the likes of Dale & Williams on that list because we can't turn them into regular senior footballers, particularly when we're fanging for some run and carry.
        Bailey Williams I still see as being able to contribute.
        Dale I'm not sure on anymore. He looked terrible at senior level this year and forwards who can't provide forward pressure just don't get picked anymore.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15345

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by Mofra
          I held hope over the pre-season, I think he might be a year or two away from that yet. He may end up back behind the ball depending on how our list changes play out too, we don't have anyone that looks set to take over from JJ.
          It’s not like JJ is 30+ (27 this year) so we have time on our side in that regard. And Vandermeer was drafted as the line breaking HB wasn’t he?

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          • Rocket Science
            Coaching Staff
            • Oct 2007
            • 4851

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Bailey Williams I still see as being able to contribute.
            Dale I'm not sure on anymore. He looked terrible at senior level this year and forwards who can't provide forward pressure just don't get picked anymore.
            Yes Dale seems utterly lost and aeons away from that flying 2017 purple patch we somehow managed to extract from him. Pity because we're dying for a dose of the same about now.

            Agreed, Wiliams' case is less dire but the signs have been less than reassuring to date this year.
            BORDERLINE FLYING

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66317

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by Rocket Science
              A bit frustrating to see the likes of Dale & Williams on that list because we can't turn them into regular senior footballers, particularly when we're fanging for some run and carry.
              As supporters we have over rated them
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • The Adelaide Connection
                Coaching Staff
                • Jan 2009
                • 2751

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Warren Tredrea has mentioned Fogarty and suggested if he doesn’t get a gig now that Jenkins is injured that he should be walking out the door. He has clearly fallen behind Himmelberg in calculations, so I think he is spot on.

                Get on the phone Sam.
                Last edited by The Adelaide Connection; 27-06-2019, 05:41 PM.

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                • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8917

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                  Warren Tredrea has mentioned Fogarty and suggested if he doesn’t get a gig now that Jenkins injured that he should be walking outt the door. He has clearly fallen behind Himmelberg in calculations, so I think he is spot on.

                  Get on the phone Sam.
                  Yes, please.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14883

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                    Warren Tredrea has mentioned Fogarty and suggested if he doesn’t get a gig now that Jenkins injured that he should be walking outt the door. He has clearly fallen behind Himmelberg in calculations, so I think he is spot on.

                    Get on the phone Sam.
                    Yes. In a heartbeat, yes.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11069

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                      Warren Tredrea has mentioned Fogarty and suggested if he doesn’t get a gig now that Jenkins injured that he should be walking outt the door. He has clearly fallen behind Himmelberg in calculations, so I think he is spot on.

                      Get on the phone Sam.
                      Tom Lynch is out as well and this week the Crows are handing a debut to Ben Davis (who?) to play the Lynch role. Surely Fogarty is looking elsewhere.

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                      • Rocket Science
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4851

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        As supporters we have over rated them
                        Are you pretty confident that explains it?

                        Both have shown enough, albeit sparingly perhaps, to warrant some enthusiasm, surely.
                        BORDERLINE FLYING

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                        • The Adelaide Connection
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2751

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          Tom Lynch is out as well and this week the Crows are handing a debut to Ben Davis (who?) to play the Lynch role. Surely Fogarty is looking elsewhere.
                          Yeah I just heard that and started rubbing my hands together. SURELY we would be into Fogarty.

                          Apparently their forwardline will average 60 games experience this weekend, which doesn’t sound significant until you consider it has got Walker and Betts in that mix. Fogarty must be pissed that he has been overlooked.

                          Williams and our first for Fogarty and McHenry?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66317

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Originally posted by Rocket Science
                            Are you pretty confident that explains it?

                            Both have shown enough, albeit sparingly perhaps, to warrant some enthusiasm, surely.
                            My opinion.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9873

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Rocket Science
                              Are you pretty confident that explains it?

                              Both have shown enough, albeit sparingly perhaps, to warrant some enthusiasm, surely.
                              I'm a fan of both. Both decent size and quality users of the football. I was really pleased with Williams' game last week and would like to see more of him going back to his natural HBF role. Underrated at the contested mark in defence and has good core strength, I don't see him hit the deck as often as others. Dale I haven't given up on, quality user of the ball by foot, definite outside player so I'm not caught up in the one way running but does need to work on defensive side a lot more to be an AFL footballer. A bit timid as well from what I've seen but hoping with some extra muscle that will change. Another who is a decent contested mark at his age. I think both are at the age needed for our list so I'd be disappointed to see them traded for weak 3rd round picks we'll use on another 18 yr old.

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                              • FrediKanoute
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 3817

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Bailey Williams I still see as being able to contribute.
                                Dale I'm not sure on anymore. He looked terrible at senior level this year and forwards who can't provide forward pressure just don't get picked anymore.
                                Dale has effectively had 12 months out, 18 months if the truth about his foot was that he was playing injured for a while. Look back to his 2017 and it was stellar. In my mind he is worth another 2 years.

                                Williams is another who is a must keep. Good player

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