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  • Rocket Science
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 4851

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    It's curious to reflect on the same time last year that Lynch & Williams would (seemingly) become surplus to requirements.

    Footy time waits for no man.
    BORDERLINE FLYING

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14883

      Re: Proactive Poaching



      Not sure if that comes up - Bulldogs interested in Dougal Howard, who is still contracted at Port.

      199cm KPD
      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66321

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by azabob
        It’s too small but not surprising. Over the last few years we have been very conservative with our list changes.
        You need to check, we have turned over at least 10 per year over the last few years.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15238

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by bornadog
          You need to check, we have turned over at least 10 per year over the last few years.
          Really? Wow that blows my mind that we have had 30 list changes in the last three years. I will have to look more into it.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14188

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by azabob
            Really? Wow that blows my mind that we have had 30 list changes in the last three years. I will have to look more into it.
            Well it has to be 15 minimum doesn’t it ( 5 a year )
            Bring back the biff

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15238

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by ledge
              Well it has to be 15 minimum doesn’t it ( 5 a year )
              I think Minimum list delistings is 3.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17951

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by Mofra
                https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/...86477710970881

                Not sure if that comes up - Bulldogs interested in Dougal Howard, who is still contracted at Port.

                199cm KPD
                If you’re 195cm+ defender, fair chance you’re getting linked to the Dogs this off season.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66321

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Really? Wow that blows my mind that we have had 30 list changes in the last three years. I will have to look more into it.
                  Slight exaggeration, but still a big turnover, 34 in 4 years.

                  2018 - ten
                  Shane Biggs (retired), Clay Smith (retired), Kieran Collins (delisted), Nathan Mullenger-McHugh (delisted), Jack Redpath (retired), Luke Dahlhaus (unrestricted free agent to Geelong), Marcus Adams (traded to Brisbane Lions), Jordan Roughead (traded to Collingwood), Tom Campbell (delisted), Mitch Honeychuch (delisted)
                  2017 - 9
                  Matthew Boyd (retired)
                  Bob Murphy (retired)
                  Josh Prudden (delisted)
                  Declan Hamilton (delisted)
                  Tristan Tweedie (delisted)
                  Travis Cloke (retired)
                  Stewart Crameri (delisted)
                  Roarke Smith (delisted)
                  Jack Stringer (trade, Essendon)
                  2016 - 7
                  Jed Adcock (ret)
                  Luke Goetz (del)
                  Joel Hamling (trd)
                  Nathan Hrovat (trd)
                  Josh Prudden (del)
                  Koby Stevens (trd)
                  Will Minson (del)
                  2015- 8
                  Ayce Cordy (delisted), Sam Darley (delisted), Matthew Fuller (delisted), Jarrad Grant (delisted), Michael Talia (trade), Brett Goodes (delisted), Jordan Kelly (delisted), Daniel Pearce (delisted)
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    You need to check, we have turned over at least 10 per year over the last few years.
                    I can’t find that anywhere that we cut 10 main listed players three years running. Can you post a link for me?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Rookies aren’t generally considered to be in the turnover figure, it’s a main list metric. So it’s more like 9, 7, 5 & 6.

                      We need to find a 6th and bring in talent while we can.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Besides being a touch too loyal to a few they’ve made significant changes over the last few years

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66321

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Rookies aren’t generally considered to be in the turnover figure, it’s a main list metric. So it’s more like 9, 7, 5 & 6.

                          We need to find a 6th and bring in talent while we can.
                          Fair enough, but we have still have had a decent turnover.

                          I really don't understand why we gave Porter another year
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Fair enough, but we have still have had a decent turnover.

                            I really don't understand why we gave Porter another year
                            It's an interesting question, re Porter. We are seemingly interested in about 10 players, and surely must be hoping to land 3. Which means 6 spots. Maybe the club is aware of interest in a fringe player from another club and will facilitate it? Maybe the thought is Dicko is going retire? The club obviously knows something that we can only guess. Surely we can't have the huge money and war chest of picks, with the offers/interest going everywhere and not have three spots ready to go if God forbid three players say yes to us.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11072

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/...86477710970881

                              Not sure if that comes up - Bulldogs interested in Dougal Howard, who is still contracted at Port.

                              199cm KPD
                              Would be a great get.

                              Hard to know what is genuine when we are being linked to half the players in the league.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14883

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by Axe Man
                                Would be a great get.

                                Hard to know what is genuine when we are being linked to half the players in the league.
                                I suspect our targets are pretty clear:

                                - KPD/swingman
                                - Class forward of the ball/small forward
                                - Outside run / wing

                                I expect we hope to bring in three mature players who are best 22 given what we are willing to pay. If we get 1-2 I think we'll still be in a very good position cap-wise, with the potential for a 'game changing' NGA/FS draft haul in 2020 setting up for sustained success.
                                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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