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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by Twodogs
    Should we make an offer to Daniher? Could he fit in the team with Schache?
    Nut sure they can (plus Naughtin, and likely Keath & Bruce), or they we could appease Dodoro. Let Sydney deal with him, but I'm happy to offer Sydney 12 (to help them) if we get a genuinely good player for it. I only really like Hayward (no chance he leaves), Florent & Papley.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Nut sure they can (plus Naughtin, and likely Keath & Bruce), or they we could appease Dodoro. Let Sydney deal with him, but I'm happy to offer Sydney 12 (to help them) if we get a genuinely good player for it. I only really like Hayward (no chance he leaves), Florent & Papley.
      I hadn't thought of applying the squeeze to Essendon's cap but I should have. Is there a strategic advantage for us to do it?
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        I hadn't thought of applying the squeeze to Essendon's cap but I should have. Is there a strategic advantage for us to do it?
        They are after Ryder (met him today/this week), Langdon and Powell-Pepper, as well now after signing AMT, maybe still after Jack Martin too. So Dainher is gone or AFEL house has signed off on further 'salary cap doesn't apply to you' measures. I suspect Daniher is already as good as gone, it's just a matter of what it takes to move Dodoro and how long it takes. If a second first rounder is needed for Sydney, that's where we could find something if value if we can convince a good young player to play for us.
        Last edited by bulldogtragic; 13-09-2019, 04:27 AM.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • AshMac
          WOOF Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 1714

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          600k for Keith is absurd. One good year and he is on the same coin as our norm smith medallist!

          Paying overs s***s me!
          The dam wall has busted!

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            I hope Freo stick to their word. AFEL.com.au reporting that Freo are demanding pick 5 for Brad Hill. Will not accept two lower picks.

            1. Zak Jones to them seems certain. If 5 is off the table for at least the start, they need a second rounder from Bruce heading to us to make it happen without it being stalled by Freo. So maybe this happens quick and easy.

            2. Alex Keath. St Kilda may be the only other main suitor for him. But if pick 5 has to go, or St Kilda get stuck in a slog with Freo (like the Hogan trade last year), it's possible St Kilda might not have a pick this year to do it if Jack Stevens goes to Geelong put that pick is earmarked for Paddy Ryder. Realities might make Keath and his manager see the obvious trade partner as us, plus a good contract and further into the rebuild phase.

            So here's hoping Peter Bell applies the blow torch and creates an environment where we may benefit (if only a little) from them fighting it out.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44534

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Apparently on $350,000-$400,000. At that price what does he do as a midfielder that we don't have is the question?
              He's had 2 years in the system and is signed for another 2. He's more of a forward who takes a turn in the midfield and if he could be acquired cheaply he's worth considering
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44534

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by AshMac
                600k for Keith is absurd. One good year and he is on the same coin as our norm smith medallist!

                Paying overs s***s me!
                It's a bit of a risk granted. Welcome to the new way of doing things
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3702

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  He's had 2 years in the system and is signed for another 2. He's more of a forward who takes a turn in the midfield and if he could be acquired cheaply he's worth considering
                  it looks like a salary cap dump to me. Also has had 2 knee reco's. A 3rd round pick at best from our perspective. Good potential however, but is he what we need though?
                  Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44534

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by The Doctor
                    it looks like a salary cap dump to me. Also has had 2 knee reco's. A 3rd round pick at best from our perspective. Good potential however, but is he what we need though?
                    Yep, a third round pick would be about right. On his potential alone he would be an upgrade on a few others we have.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      There will be a mini series on the Daniher to Sydney scenario
                      Could be an interesting trade period

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                      • AshMac
                        WOOF Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 1714

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        It's a bit of a risk granted. Welcome to the new way of doing things
                        Is it the new way, Or is it the new bulldog way?

                        We have cap space we have to spend but surely that doesn’t mean we go after tier 2 players with tier one salaries...

                        Reeks of desperation in a time where players are choosing big clubs for less money. I also heard 4 years!!

                        he is a hamling style target. One good year and around the 400-450 mark. The message that must send to the kids we’ve just signed this year for less is risky.
                        The dam wall has busted!

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44534

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by Remi Moses
                          There will be a mini series on the Daniher to Sydney scenario
                          Could be an interesting trade period
                          We might be able to play a part in getting that deal done
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14909

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Originally posted by AshMac
                            600k for Keith is absurd. One good year and he is on the same coin as our norm smith medallist!

                            Paying overs s***s me!
                            We have to meet the cap floor otherwise we cop a 5% penalty in subsequent years.

                            There were at least 83 players on $600k or more a couple of years ago, that figure is surely over 90 now.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14909

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Should we make an offer to Daniher? Could he fit in the team with Schache?
                              Hell no.
                              Cost in terms of $$$ and picks would be astronomical for a bloke who may not be able to get on the paddock. It would mean we don't get anyone else. I'd rather Bruce & Keath for a similar price (sightly higher aggregate contract which isn't a problem given our cap space, much lower trade cost).
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66521

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Brad Hill has nominated Saints
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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