Proactive Poaching

[bulldogtragic]

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Hmmmmmm:

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'The reverse Wingard'...

[Axe Man]

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Hmmmmmm:

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My God - Naughton is going to St Kilda!

[The Doctor]

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My God - Naughton is going to St Kilda!

Like everyone else

[macca]

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Like everyone else

Stkilda , new contender for winning trade week

[GVGjr]

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Any interest in Charlie Constable? Might be looking for more regular senior games.

While it's a unlikely scenario and that he is certainly a bit similar to a few of our midfielders I do think he's a bit of a no nonsense player.

[Scraggers]

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I've got to say, I really am enjoying the moneyball approach to our recruiting. Crozier,JT, Lloyd, Durea and now possibly Bruce and Keath and maybe a third target. We are chasing huge names, just role players.

[1eyedog]

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I've got to say, I really am enjoying the moneyball approach to our recruiting. Crozier,JT, Lloyd, Durea and now possibly Bruce and Keath and maybe a third target. We are chasing huge names, just role players.

Agreed, some smarts or touch of class would be nice though. We're clearly after it (Winged, Martin) but just keep missing out.

[AshMac]

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How else do you attract a player that doesn't really want to leave his club? Offer him more years and dollars than his current club.

Doesn’t want to leave? The place is burning to the ground - no one wants to stay. It isn’t a question of prying him out of Adelaide - it’s beating other clubs to his signature.

$600k for 4 years is enormous w his CV and too risky IMO.

Would love to eat humble pie

[Remi Moses]

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Doesn’t want to leave? The place is burning to the ground - no one wants to stay. It isn’t a question of prying him out of Adelaide - it’s beating other clubs to his signature.

$600k for 4 years is enormous w his CV and too risky IMO.

Would love to eat humble pie

Couldn’t disagree more . To pry players out from other clubs you always pay overs
It’s the lay of the land . Is Brad Hill worth 900 grand a year ? Probably not Martin over 600 ? I’d say his body of work says no

[1eyedog]

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600k isn't massive overs in today's climate.

[bulldogtragic]

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600k isn't massive overs in today's climate.

Yep. Huge increase in the current CBA, still 2.5% annual cap increases. 4 year deals will roll into the new CBA which will make it proportionally lower as a percentage of the cap too. The average salary across the comp is about $400,000 next year. Bruce (30-50 goal a year KPF) & Keath (top 10 KPD this year) are better than average players who need a carrot to leave/choose us. Not an issue. If we landed both with the bidding coming from other clubs, I’d be really happy to hear ‘yes’ from these players who have other options and increase the mature talent on our list, especially in KPPs. We still have a 5 x year $700,000 contract now Martin didn’t want it...

[1eyedog]

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Yep. Huge increase in the current CBA, still 2.5% annual cap increases. 4 year deals will roll into the new CBA which will make it proportionally lower as a percentage of the cap too. The average salary across the comp is about $400,000 next year. Bruce (30-50 goal a year KPF) & Keath (top 10 KPD this year) are better than average players who need a carrot to leave/choose us. Not an issue. If we landed both with the bidding coming from other clubs, I’d be really happy to hear ‘yes’ from these players who have other options and increase the mature talent on our list, especially in KPPs. We still have a 5 x year $700,000 contract now Martin didn’t want it...

We've gotta pay someone at this rate we won't meet our cap spend. If we're into him we've got to go hard. I think we've gone hard at all our targets we've just missed out a few times.

Money is not the issue here we simply must improve our list, particularly our key back position.

[bulldogtragic]

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We've gotta pay someone at this rate we won't meet our cap spend. If we're into him we've got to go hard. I think we've gone hard at all our targets we've just missed out a few times.

Money is not the issue here we simply must improve our list, particularly our key back position.

I'd guess there was at least 10,000 posts this year of frustration at times of JT, Cordy &/or Wood, Roberts inability to play senior footy, the match committee, coaches, tactics, not replacing Hamling, Adams etc, losing Morris, the need to replace the hole that Naughton playing forward created etc, etc, etc. Then a KPD who had a very good year becomes gettable. If he wants to wear our colours, then we will probably all be a little happier for it. Keath takes CHB, JT & Young compete for FB, Cordy goes to the third tall role with perhaps he, Wood & Crozier competing for two spots. Seems a better balance and serious competition for spots is a good thing. You absolutely nail it: "we simply must improve our list, particularly our key back position."

[Remi Moses]

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Probably a cricket analogy is we’ve played 5 batsmen instead of 6

[GVGjr]

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If we are to trade for Bruce how confident are we that 3 tall forwards will work for us?

I know there is a belief that Bruce will support in the ruck as well but from what I have seen I don't think he's as good as say Cordy in that area.

I also think Cordy could have been a decent option as a 3rd tall forward if we really wanted to go down that road

I like the idea of recruiting Bruce but it does pose some challenges.