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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3571

    #31
    Re: Allan Richardson Gone

    Originally posted by azabob
    Agree, but Bevo said his loyalty is with the players first and foremost and then the club.

    I think we all underestimate or don’t actually know what Beveridges motivations are. He is very much an individual compared to other senior coaches.
    He doesn’t have a manager ... negotiates his own contracts. I believe he is the only coach without a manager.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67297

      #32
      Re: Allan Richardson Gone

      Originally posted by Scraggers
      He doesn’t have a manager ... negotiates his own contracts. I believe he is the only coach without a manager.
      Apparently you want to try and poach him, you have to ring him directly.

      I can imagine there would be a few managers not ringing him due to nerves.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15408

        #33
        Re: Allan Richardson Gone

        Originally posted by Scraggers
        He doesn’t have a manager ... negotiates his own contracts. I believe he is the only coach without a manager.
        Yep. Which makes the whole situation even more interesting. Part of me wouldn’t be surprised if he left at seasons end.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11887

          #34
          Re: Allan Richardson Gone

          David King has called on St.Kilda to be ‘bold’ and chase James Hird as their new coach. God I’m glad we have such responsible media in this country. Bold would certainly be one word for it.

          Well whatever keeps them away from Bevo I guess
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13312

            #35
            Re: Allan Richardson Gone

            Bevo has unfinished business with this list he's built. He's a player coach no way he's going to pull the rug out from beneath a whole bunch of kids who love him. He won a Premiership here, how many has he won at St. Kilda? This is his home and they know it too. They'll ask but they'll just get that funny little laugh he does.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 15060

              #36
              Re: Allan Richardson Gone

              Originally posted by hujsh
              David King has called on St.Kilda to be ‘bold’ and chase James Hird as their new coach. God I’m glad we have such responsible media in this country. Bold would certainly be one word for it.

              Well whatever keeps them away from Bevo I guess
              If I had to guess I'd say Voss.

              Has had a decent apprenticeship now.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11315

                #37
                Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                Originally posted by Rocket Science
                Bugger the psychology. I want the cold hard figures.

                What're the W/L stats of sides that've just sacked the cockroach? And how many more do we seriously have to cop?
                WHY THE 'CARETAKER EFFECT' SHOULD NOT WORRY THE BULLDOGS

                The ‘caretaker effect’ has not been overly positive in recent times.

                St Kilda head into this weekend’s clash with the Western Bulldogs in a strange yet not unprecedented position.

                Following Alan Richardson’s departure on Tuesday, the Saints will take on the Dogs at Marvel Stadium on Sunday with Brett Ratten in the role as caretaker coach.

                This particular scenario has fared well for clubs this year but the recent record bodes a bit better for the Dogs than it does the Saints.

                In David Teague’s first game in charge of Carlton in Round 12, the Blues defeated top four hopefuls the Brisbane Lions.

                A week earlier, North Melbourne made the dream start under Rhyce Shaw when comfortably accounting for Richmond.

                In 2019, the caretaker record is 2-0.

                However, the history of interim coaches overseeing immediate wins over the past two decades sits at just 45%. The record is 11 wins and 13 losses from 24 matches.

                Even more recently, since 2010, there have been 13 games involving a caretaker coach, yielding five wins and eight losses for a 38% winning strike rate.

                This does not include when an assistant has stepped in to fill the void when the coach has either been injured, unwell or unavailable.

                There could be a perception that clubs with a caretaker coach go out and get the job done first-up but this snapshot will certainly not unsettle Luke Beveridge and the Bulldogs as they look to keep in touch with the top eight by inflicting a fifth straight defeat on the Saints.

                Furthermore, Ratten lost his other game as caretaker when he replaced Denis Pagan at Carlton back in 2007.

                Caretaker stats (since 2001)
                GAMES: 24
                WINS: 11
                LOSSES: 13
                WIN %: 45.8

                Caretaker stats (since 2010)
                GAMES: 13
                WINS: 5
                LOSSES: 8
                WIN %: 38.5

                Caretaker results from 2019 back to 2001

                2019
                Rhyce Shaw (North Melbourne) - Round 11 - WIN
                David Teague (Carlton) - Round 12 - WIN

                2017
                Dean Solomon (Gold Coast) - Round 21 - LOSS

                2015
                John Barker (Carlton) - Round 9 - LOSS
                Matthew Egan (Essendon) - Round 21 - LOSS

                2013
                Neil Craig (Melbourne) - Round 13 - LOSS
                Mark Harvey (Brisbane) - Round 21 - WIN
                Simon Goodwin (Essendon) - Round 23 - LOSS

                2012
                Garry Hocking (Port Adelaide) - Round 20 - LOSS

                2011
                Mark Bickley (Adelaide) - Round 19 - WIN
                Todd Viney (Melbourne) - Round 20 - LOSS
                Paul Williams (Western Bulldogs) - Round 22 - WIN

                2010
                Matthew Primus (Port Adelaide) - Round 16 - LOSS

                2009
                Jade Rawlings (Richmond) - Round 12 - WIN
                Darren Crocker (North Melbourne) - Round 13 - LOSS

                2007
                Mark Riley (Melbourne) - Round 14 - WIN
                Mark Harvey (Fremantle) - Round 16 - WIN
                Brett Ratten (Carlton) - Round 17 - LOSS

                2004
                Donald McDonald (Hawthorn) - Round 18 - LOSS
                Neil Craig (Adelaide) - Round 14 - WIN

                2002
                Paul Roos (Sydney) - Round 13 - WIN
                Peter Rohde (Western Bulldogs) - Round 22 - WIN

                2001
                Ben Allan (Fremantle) - Round 10 - LOSS
                Grant Thomas (St Kilda) - Round 16 - LOSS

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14472

                  #38
                  Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                  I heard if you take all sports all over the world it’s a 76% win ratio.
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15060

                    #39
                    Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    I heard if you take all sports all over the world it’s a 76% win ratio.
                    Let's reign it in a bit, Bulgarian tiddlywinks and Mongolian sack-jumping aren't really comparable to AFL!
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11315

                      #40
                      Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                      Originally posted by ledge
                      I heard if you take all sports all over the world it’s a 76% win ratio.
                      Surely nobody has enough time on their hands to compile that useless statistic.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #41
                        Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        David King has called on St.Kilda to be ‘bold’ and chase James Hird as their new coach. God I’m glad we have such responsible media in this country. Bold would certainly be one word for it.

                        Well whatever keeps them away from Bevo I guess
                        I'm reading this right now and laughing. "There's something about Hird that oozes 'I'm your man', says King. Honestly, what planet is he on.
                        They keep blaming Seaford for their troubles. Seaford didn't pick your list Saints. Not one all Australian for 5 years.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27664

                          #42
                          Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                          We are going at 100% this century! Lets sack Bevo and win the flag!
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11315

                            #43
                            Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            We are going at 100% this century! Lets sack Bevo and win the flag!
                            We will have to sack the coach every week to guarantee success. Can you recycle them or must they be new every time for it to work?

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27664

                              #44
                              Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              We will have to sack the coach every week to guarantee success. Can you recycle them or must they be new every time for it to work?
                              I don't know that we would because the coaches we have had are undefeated.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45017

                                #45
                                Re: Allan Richardson Gone

                                Hird and Lethlean at the same club. Sounds like a plan
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