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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 22015

    Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

    Here's the latest propaganda piece from the AFL reminding us of how smart they were to expand the competition:



    A couple of quotes and some points:

    “The two new teams are significantly commercially positive for the AFL,’’ Goyder says. “They give our media partners access to bigger population areas and there is no doubt in my mind that the broadcast rights outcome of a few years ago was enhanced materially by having teams on the Gold Coast and Western Sydney.

    “That has been to the benefit of the whole industry.”


    Where's your evidence of this numbnuts? Using terms "in my mind" points to the fact there probably isn't any anyone who actually could share it willing to share the actual evidence. Because it isn't there, or it is and it shows neutrality as a best case when it comes to viewer behaviour or overall patronage.

    “The best single measure of what this is costing the competition would be to ask, how much more are the Giants and the Suns supported each year by the AFL than the most supported clubs in Melbourne, who have been here for 150 years?”
    To answer that, it's not as much as you might think. The Giants last year received total AFL dividends of $22.7 million. This is is less than $4 million more than St Kilda received."


    Actually, ~18% is a massive number. If we're talking above operational costs, it's *!*!*!*!ing huge. Just because four is a number under five and it kind of sounds small, against the actual expenditure on each club it's more than material. It's beneficial. Don't take us all for patsies, some of us get paid to spin shit just like you do you *!*!*!*!ing wankers, and most of us are smart enough to figure it out anyway.

    But Dave Matthews, god bless his cotton socks, actually puts some truth or gravity into the situation by being carelessly pragmatic.

    “Particularly in Sydney, to capture hearts and minds in such a cluttered market you really need to be winning,’’ Matthews says.
    “It’s important in western Sydney that communities trust you and trust you are going to be there and put your roots down and establish a club forever.’’


    No shit David. We get it, and this is why you get the concessions and the 18% over and above the funding other clubs get (without taking into account how heavily your club is exposed, the golden handshakes from a sponsorship perspective it gets). You need to keep winning whether it be through merit or through intervention, because nobody will give a single *!*!*!*! about your club when it starts to lose. In the most cluttered market (Sydney is cluttered, sure, but not to the extent Melbourne is in light of poor and decreasing patronage within the NRL, and Melbourne numbers continue to increase at the same time) without additional funding the worst clubs in Melbourne still survive because of their history and yours never will.

    This article is actually demonstrating the opposite of its intent (unless good Ol' Chip has a sense of irony in his writing too subtle for my humble brain to pick up). What a time to be alive.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      Wasn’t Gold Coast given the same advantages? It has not all just be given to them.
      Not quite.

      GWS were able to trade out the four 'mini draft' selections, which netted them an extra 5 first round picks over 2 years.

      They also have had almost unrestricted access to NSW Riverina players, which is a very fertile breeding ground.

      Plus they were given a virtually 'ready to go' facility, rather than the cobbled together facilities GC had.

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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4866

        Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

        I'll concede this much, the only good that's come of the fluoro pricks making a granny are the welcome advent of 'big big sound' memes.

        BORDERLINE FLYING

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67350

          Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

          Get ready for the send off rule to come in next year, thanks to Mumford:

          "I'll be going out there to try and send a few bodies flying and doing everything I can to help us get the win."
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18099

            Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Get ready for the send off rule to come in next year, thanks to Mumford:
            Seeing how feral Mumford get is pretty much the only reason to watch the GF.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67350

              Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

              Originally posted by comrade
              Seeing how feral Mumford get is pretty much the only reason to watch the GF.
              I would love to see it go the other way and he cops it
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67350

                Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                Debuting in a V/@AFL

                Grand Final
                1908 - Harry Prout ESS (L)
                1920 - Billy James RICH (W)
                1923 - George Rawle ESS (W)
                1926 - Francis Vine MELB (W)
                1952 - Keith Batchelor COLL (L)
                2019 - MARLION PICKETT RICH
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18099

                  Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                  Gotta give props to Richmond for a) giving him a spot in the first place & b) backing him in to debut in the biggest game of them all.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Debuting in a V/@AFL

                    Grand Final
                    1908 - Harry Prout ESS (L)
                    1920 - Billy James RICH (W)
                    1923 - George Rawle ESS (W)
                    1926 - Francis Vine MELB (W)
                    1952 - Keith Batchelor COLL (L)
                    2019 - MARLION PICKETT RICH
                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Gotta give props to Richmond for a) giving him a spot in the first place & b) backing him in to debut in the biggest game of them all.
                    Its the biggest selection call I can remember in a very long time. I just hope it doesn't backfire on them.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67350

                      Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                      Originally posted by westdog54
                      Its the biggest selection call I can remember in a very long time. I just hope it doesn't backfire on them.
                      Since Hooper debuted in the finals
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • angelopetraglia
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6910

                        Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                        Pickett. Wow. Just Wow. What a decision. What a story.

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11468

                          Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                          Jack Ross is 19yo and has been in so-so form since he returned from injury. Stack doesn't have the game time in his legs since his return from ankle surgery. McIntosh is a turnover merchant who can gut run all day. Pickett isn't a massive risk on the surface - 27yo and comfortably in the best form of the next crop.

                          Still an awesome story.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27666

                            Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Debuting in a V/@AFL

                            Grand Final
                            1908 - Harry Prout ESS (L)
                            1920 - Billy James RICH (W)
                            1923 - George Rawle ESS (W)
                            1926 - Francis Vine MELB (W)
                            1952 - Keith Batchelor COLL (L)
                            2019 - MARLION PICKETT RICH
                            If you want a great story then that Billy James kicked the sealer in the 1920 grand final which is his one and only game of VFL football. Comes in as a replacement for a suspended player at Richmond then he goes back home to Kyabram in the offseason and promptly shoots himself in the foot while he's rabbiting with his mates!
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67350

                              Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                              Bevo on Front Bar
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • divvydan
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1502

                                Re: 2019 AFL Finals Series

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                Jack Ross is 19yo and has been in so-so form since he returned from injury. Stack doesn't have the game time in his legs since his return from ankle surgery. McIntosh is a turnover merchant who can gut run all day. Pickett isn't a massive risk on the surface - 27yo and comfortably in the best form of the next crop.

                                Still an awesome story.
                                Agree, I think the big thing for me is that Ross and McIntosh were held back from playing in the VFL GF so they would be right to come in and replace people if needed, so not only do they miss the AFL GF but missed a premiership last week as well. Meanwhile Pickett was allowed to play in the VFL GF, wins BOG and then leapfrogs them into the AFL GF.

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