Willie Rioli - banned substance

[Dry Rot]

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PED or recreational fun stuff?

[ratsmac]

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Has that club ever played by the rules?

I doubt it. They always seem to have bigger bodies quicker than everyone else and we know they like to party so having help is not out of the ordinary.

[Throughandthrough]

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So disappointed when I heard the news. I knew Willie personally and he was a shy, humble, polite and thankful young man from an amazingly tight knit and loving family. Hope he is ok.

[GVGjr]

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This is as dodgy as. I suspect there should be a lot more to this. How did the sample get compromised?

[Grantysghost]

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This is as dodgy as. I suspect there should be a lot more to this. How did the sample get compromised?

It's all shades of dodgy. You would expect there's more than Willie involved and that opens a scary can of worms. Not sure why it's taken so long either; August 18 was the date.

[Bornadog]

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According to Daniel Hartford could be The Whizzinator

[AndrewP6]

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I don't get why players think they need to take short cuts and cheat the system

It just raises doubts now on so many other players

If they know they've broken the rules, they'll try to conceal it to keep their career intact. The question is, how are they so stupid to think it will work?

[Twodogs]

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I don't get why players think they need to take short cuts and cheat the system

It just raises doubts now on so many other players

It will come as no surprise to many posters that I have had my own problems in the past with substance abuse-heroin, speed, cannabis, if you can get addicted to it then it's a fair chance I've had a problem with it. Taking drugs makes no sense at all and the first square heads say is "But it doesn't make any sense" but it's not going to make sense. It doesn't even make any sense to us.

PED or recreational fun stuff?

Tainted urine sample.

I have to go to a doctor and piss in a cup every month. The last time I did I noticed that they had put up a sign saying that they needed a gram's weight and that a gram weighs roughly the same as a paper clip. I had to laugh that they were taking the trouble to explain to a bunch of junkies how heavy a gram felt like in your hand. We are junkies! If there is one thing we do know it is exactly how much a gram feels like in the hand!! We are experts in it!!!

[Scraggers]

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At least his post retirement book now has a catchy tile:

" Willie Rioli: Taking the Piss "

It is so un-Australian to ban someone for taking the piss ... political correctness gone mad

[GVGjr]

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It's all shades of dodgy. You would expect there's more than Willie involved and that opens a scary can of worms. Not sure why it's taken so long either; August 18 was the date.

Scary stuff to think an inspector who has to watch the player complete the sample and label it etc before sending it off to be tested has somehow managed to stuff it up
My conspiracy tendencies can see the opportunity for a few people to be involved in this scam

[Twodogs]

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Scary stuff to think an inspector who has to watch the player complete the sample and label it etc before sending it off to be tested has somehow managed to stuff it up
My conspiracy tendencies can see the opportunity for a few people to be involved in this scam

The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.

That's if they come with you in the first place. Usually they will hand you the cup inside a bag and you put it back in (surprisingly they aren't that keen to be touching jars that may have urine streaked down the outside of them) and you hand it back with the urine in the cup already inside the plastic bag.

[Grantysghost]

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The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.

That's if they come with you in the first place. Usually they will hand you the cup inside a bag and you put it back in (surprisingly they aren't that keen to be touching jars that may have urine streaked down the outside of them) and you hand it back with the urine in the cup already inside the plastic bag.

Wonder how they picked up irregularities?

[GVGjr]

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The inspector or nurse or whoever tends to turn their back because the pressure to perform when they are standing there staring at you can make it a bit hard. So while they physically may be in the cubicle with you they may as well be standing outside.

My understanding is they actually are not supposed to turn away during the sample collection process.
I'm reading through the WADA details now

[bulldogtragic]

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Wonder how they picked up irregularities?

Seinfeld, season 7, episode 15, covers the science of picking up urine irregularities quite well (leaving the hilarity to one side).

[Twodogs]

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Wonder how they picked up irregularities?

The irregularity would have shown up in the first screening. I'm guessing (with no proof) that Willie has bought a supposedly clean sample off of somebody and has gotten ripped off.

My understanding is they actually are not supposed to turn away during the sample collection process.
I'm reading through the WADA details now

Yeah, nah, they aren't supposed to but a toilet cubicle is an unforgivably small spot for two people to fit into especially when one of them is supposed to be urinating into a cup. Usually what they do is watch you set up, leave while you actually do the deed then come back in before you have a chance to pull a swifty.