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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11042

    #46
    Re: Cash Converters 2019

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    Sauce Jacobs has left crows as rfa. I think no, but would he be considered for a couple of years whilst Tim develops?
    He is leaving to be number 1 ruck at GWS because Mummy is cooked, he isn't going to come to us to likely play the majority of the season in the VFL.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18912

      #47
      Re: Cash Converters 2019

      Originally posted by Axe Man
      He is leaving to be number 1 ruck at GWS because Mummy is cooked, he isn't going to come to us to likely play the majority of the season in the VFL.
      Actually that makes sense. He would be a good replacement.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • The Doctor
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 3702

        #48
        Re: Cash Converters 2019

        What about these?

        Cedric Cox - Brisbane

        Taken at pick 24 in the 2016 draft. We were very keen on him. He is a quick indigenous winger from Halls creek WA via the North Ballarat Rebels. Has struggled for opportunity so far at the Lions and managing just the 13 games so far. Brisbane are after Callum Ah Chee from Suns so this could diminish his prospects further. He might be gettable? Perhaps a late 3rd rounder?

        Aiden Bonar - GWS

        Taken with pick 11 at the 2017 draft. He is powerfully built midfielder/forward with good goal sense and a strong tackler. Has only played 6 games with so many midfielders ahead of him at GWS. They might see him as surplus to their needs and may require a salary dump in order to retain the likes of Whitifeld & Cameron coming up. Therefore he might come cheaper than we think. a 3rd rounder?

        Aidyn Johnson - Port Adelaide

        Taken with pick 45 at the 2015 draft. An indigenous former AFL academy member from Bendigo who is a quick winger/flanker type with good goal sense. Has managed just 11 games in his career so far. He is also out of contract. I doubt he would cost much.
        Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          #49
          Re: Cash Converters 2019

          Is Johnson a Bendigo boy Doc or did his footy take him to the rebels from out of town?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • The Doctor
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 3702

            #50
            Re: Cash Converters 2019

            He came from within the Bendigo Pioneers catchment as far as I know.
            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21614

              #51
              Re: Cash Converters 2019

              Originally posted by Mofra
              SEN, radio. Noting in print.
              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Be careful with that stuff, it rots your brain.
              Absolutely correct. I listened to it flat out for a few years around 2008-2011 and it literally made me regress mentally and emotionally. The advertisements (Franco on the not yet connected toilet, you know, because ethnics), the hullabaloo, KB and other presenters turning the whip around and bludgeoning dead horses with the handle instead of moving on. Tim Watson and Andy Maher on the ill-informed issue merry go round every single morning, and finally, the talk back.

              It was absolute poison and I can't see how it's gotten any better.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44369

                #52
                Re: Cash Converters 2019

                Originally posted by The Doctor
                What about these?

                Cedric Cox - Brisbane

                Taken at pick 24 in the 2016 draft. We were very keen on him. He is a quick indigenous winger from Halls creek WA via the North Ballarat Rebels. Has struggled for opportunity so far at the Lions and managing just the 13 games so far. Brisbane are after Callum Ah Chee from Suns so this could diminish his prospects further. He might be gettable? Perhaps a late 3rd rounder?

                Aiden Bonar - GWS

                Taken with pick 11 at the 2017 draft. He is powerfully built midfielder/forward with good goal sense and a strong tackler. Has only played 6 games with so many midfielders ahead of him at GWS. They might see him as surplus to their needs and may require a salary dump in order to retain the likes of Whitifeld & Cameron coming up. Therefore he might come cheaper than we think. a 3rd rounder?

                Aidyn Johnson - Port Adelaide

                Taken with pick 45 at the 2015 draft. An indigenous former AFL academy member from Bendigo who is a quick winger/flanker type with good goal sense. Has managed just 11 games in his career so far. He is also out of contract. I doubt he would cost much.
                Terrific recommendations Doc that really fit the Cash Converters theme

                I'd suggest that the Lions are probably in no rush to let Cedric Cox out of his contract early but 13 games in 3 years isn't much of a return for given he was an early enough selection. A 3rd rounder seems about right but it could also be just a flip flop of 3rd round picks ie our pick #41 for their pick #51 and Cox if they're keen to open up list spots.

                Aiden Bonar is an interesting one. He's struggled since he arrived at the club with injuries but as you have noted he's versatile and a stronger tackler especially up forward. Clearing some salary cap could be a huge consideration for them plus they have a lot of players that will come back from injuries next season which potentially pushes Bonar further back in the order
                Once again, a 3rd rounder would be in the mix.

                Aidyn Johnson has just struggled with form and injuries but he's highly athletic and could be worth bringing him in

                With spots on our list at premium at the moment we probably only have room for one, perhaps two of the players but all three of them wouldn't cost a anything more than later picks.

                Great suggestions
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44369

                  #53
                  Re: Cash Converters 2019

                  A few other names to consider but with likely limited appeal

                  Ben Keays from Brisbane is an out of favor midfielder from the Lions who's out of contract. We were interested in him in the past

                  Nick Robertson - Experienced defender or midfielder who is adept at tagging or shutting opposition players. Out of contract at the Lions

                  Wylie Buzza - has struggled for games at Geelong but as a KPP can play forward and is useful in the ruck. Out of contract and perhaps a more versatile back up option than Zac Smith
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66215

                    #54
                    Re: Cash Converters 2019

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Aiden Bonar is an interesting one. He's struggled since he arrived at the club with injuries but as you have noted he's versatile and a stronger tackler especially up forward. Clearing some salary cap could be a huge consideration for them plus they have a lot of players that will come back from injuries next season which potentially pushes Bonar further back in the order
                    Once again, a 3rd rounder would be in the mix.
                    He looked like a pretty good junior and I am surprised he hasn't played more, but I guess injuries haven't helped.
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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10097

                      #55
                      Re: Cash Converters 2019

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      A few other names to consider but with likely limited appeal

                      Ben Keays from Brisbane is an out of favor midfielder from the Lions who's out of contract. We were interested in him in the past

                      Nick Robertson - Experienced defender or midfielder who is adept at tagging or shutting opposition players. Out of contract at the Lions

                      Wylie Buzza - has struggled for games at Geelong but as a KPP can play forward and is useful in the ruck. Out of contract and perhaps a more versatile back up option than Zac Smith
                      I was interested in Keays based on some outstanding NEAFL form but he really got shown up in his chances at the top level this year. He's just not quick enough to play the role he's been groomed for.

                      Robertson might have saved his career with that performance on Whitfield. Could address some concerns that arose out of our finals exit but he's a total liability with the ball in hand and I don't know if what he brings is enough to counter-balance his weaknesses.

                      I don't see it with Buzza and we'd be making the play based on theoretical upside and nothing more.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5516

                        #56
                        Re: Cash Converters 2019

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        Aiden Bonar - GWS

                        Taken with pick 11 at the 2017 draft. He is powerfully built midfielder/forward with good goal sense and a strong tackler. Has only played 6 games with so many midfielders ahead of him at GWS. They might see him as surplus to their needs and may require a salary dump in order to retain the likes of Whitifeld & Cameron coming up. Therefore he might come cheaper than we think. a 3rd rounder?
                        How does a player who has been on the list for just the mandatory 2 yr draftee contract constitute a salary dump?

                        They would simply be replaced by another draftee on the same wage.
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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5516

                          #57
                          Re: Cash Converters 2019

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          A few other names to consider but with likely limited appeal

                          Ben Keays from Brisbane is an out of favor midfielder from the Lions who's out of contract. We were interested in him in the past

                          Nick Robertson - Experienced defender or midfielder who is adept at tagging or shutting opposition players. Out of contract at the Lions

                          Wylie Buzza - has struggled for games at Geelong but as a KPP can play forward and is useful in the ruck. Out of contract and perhaps a more versatile back up option than Zac Smith
                          While Buzza may not be any chance of regular games, I would agree that he has more going for him as a back up than Zac Smith.
                          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #58
                            Re: Cash Converters 2019

                            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                            How does a player who has been on the list for just the mandatory 2 yr draftee contract constitute a salary dump?

                            They would simply be replaced by another draftee on the same wage.
                            They gave him a two year extension in about $400,000 a season.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44369

                              #59
                              Re: Cash Converters 2019

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              How does a player who has been on the list for just the mandatory 2 yr draftee contract constitute a salary dump?

                              They would simply be replaced by another draftee on the same wage.
                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              They gave him a two year extension in about $400,000 a season.
                              As BT mentioned, they over committed to him, they can get a player to replace for less than half of that. It's a small reduction but if he's behind in the pecking order and they get a draft pick it might help
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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5516

                                #60
                                Re: Cash Converters 2019

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                As BT mentioned, they over committed to him, they can get a player to replace for less than half of that. It's a small reduction but if he's behind in the pecking order and they get a draft pick it might help
                                That is poor list management if true. With all the salary cap pressure they have been under, it just has no logic.
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