Suns - Pick 1 & 2

[Mofra]

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I struggle to understand the issue with a 7 year contract. If you look at his number on impacting a game he is Top line. I would be happy to give anyone including Bont a 7 year deal but you would need to be savvy enough to add a clause that state they must play xxxx amount of games to earn the pay packet. I knee injury 2 weeks into a seven year deal would be quite a mine field to manage

Yeah weird one, why not make it 5 plus trigger clauses?
It's not like we're talking about a guy who will be 35 or 36 in the last year of his contract like Buddy, whose big contract years start next season.

[AshMac]

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Really interesting thread. Hard to call w the emotion attached. It’s a chance to setup a midfield for the 10 years w picks 1&2 this year. Something to consider.

Bont is a chance to win 6 brownlows though....so I don’t know.

Naughton could be a nick Riewoldt clone without the naked photos.

so many “could be’s”

[Bornadog]

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Really interesting thread. Hard to call w the emotion attached. It’s a chance to setup a midfield for the 10 years w picks 1&2 this year. Something to consider.

Bont is a chance to win 6 brownlows though....so I don’t know.

Naughton could be a nick Riewoldt clone without the naked photos.

so many “could be’s”

Would you look at Macrae?

[ReLoad]

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Would you look at Macrae?

If we were outside a theoretical shot at a flag, then yes, for sure.

But picks 1&2 will take 4 years before they are at his level. Given our list profile we’re already young enough.

Compelling argument though for sure.

[MrMahatma]

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If we were outside a theoretical shot at a flag, then yes, for sure.

But picks 1&2 will take 4 years before they are at his level. Given our list profile we’re already young enough.

Compelling argument though for sure.

They may not ever get to Macrae’s level. Not many do.

[AshMac]

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Would you look at Macrae?

Much more tempting. He is a ball magnet but I’m not convinced he is the most damaging player to an opposition team - certainly not as impactful as Bont.

Based on potential - I’d say yes, based on current state and our list demographic I’d say no - so I’d lean toward no given what we showed end of last year.

Good option, though doubt GCS would go for 1&2 for Jacko.

[The bulldog tragician]

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The actual performances of high draft picks over time isn’t strong enough for me to ever consider trading them for players whose quality and worth we know.

Jack Macrae is quite possibly our hardest working player, has always been determined to continually strive to improve his game and is a quality person. His finals series in 2016 was as important across the four matches as anyone’s - including the fact of how hard he worked to get there. He kicked the goal that banished that hoodoo, under unimaginable pressure - are we sure that any other player in that side would have nailed it? I know it’s just a bit of idle speculation in this silly season, but we talk about others underrating our players yet our own fans do too sometimes. Call me sentimental, but if Jack was ever offered up as trade bait a part of my love for the club would die forever.

[Rocket Science]

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Even hypothetical chat about whether Jacko's tradeable gives me the shits.

He's the very definition of a fabric player, a model citizen that drives internal stanbdards, and a dead set, rolled-gold gun of the competition.

You may as well trade Woofa, PG and the statue of EJ while you're at it.

[Rocco Jones]

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Even hypothetical chat about whether Jacko's tradeable gives me the shits.

He's the very definition of a fabric player, a model citizen that drives internal stanbdards, and a dead set, rolled-gold gun of the competition.

You may as well trade Woofa, PG and the statue of EJ while you're at it.

I'm with you.

There's a logic in being sentimental and emotional. If you traded a guy like Macrae, whatever the return, it would damage the club. How could you expect any loyalty back from the players?

I find it wryly ironic that fans have these chats but then aghast when a player decides to leave the club for more money.

[Mofra]

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I still remember the talk pre-draft of trying to trade up from pick 4 to pick 1 to get Tom Boyd. That kid we picked up with pick 4 goes ok.

[Missing Dog]

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I still spew about losing Monty and Cameron foe Eagleton (although he was very very good for us). To trade a player a Macrea's standing and ability is akin to shooting yourself in the foot

[Bornadog]

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Even hypothetical chat about whether Jacko's tradeable gives me the shits.

He's the very definition of a fabric player, a model citizen that drives internal stanbdards, and a dead set, rolled-gold gun of the competition.

You may as well trade Woofa, PG and the statue of EJ while you're at it.

I'm with you.

There's a logic in being sentimental and emotional. If you traded a guy like Macrae, whatever the return, it would damage the club. How could you expect any loyalty back from the players?

I find it wryly ironic that fans have these chats but then aghast when a player decides to leave the club for more money.

Totally agree.

Overall, I can't see any player (worthy of pick 1, 2) on our list I would trade. I think we have the nucleus of a great group that will or should, play finals for a few years.

[Happy Days]

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I still remember the talk pre-draft of trying to trade up from pick 4 to pick 1 to get Tom Boyd. That kid we picked up with pick 4 goes ok.

I still remember the pre-draft talk saying we should trade pick 4 for Nick Smith. What a time.

[GVGjr]

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I still spew about losing Monty and Cameron foe Eagleton (although he was very very good for us). To trade a player a Macrea's standing and ability is akin to shooting yourself in the foot

I'm pretty sure it was Stephen Powell not Leon

[AshMac]

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LOVE the passion in here for our players!
Even a hypothetical conversation boils the blood.