West Coast

[Rocket Science]

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And how, pray tell, did you manage to come across this information.

I want to imagine you spent hours collating and comparing

I'm as staggered as you might be to discover it's data that's readily available via AFEL.com, mercifully, so I can go back to spending my hours hand wringing about how handy swingman extraordinaire Josh Schache would be this weekend.

[Mantis]

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Great Stats.

or you can look at it another way. Missed 3 of 9 seasons (not including this year) in top 8 at end of season or 33.3%

Of course we are all never happy if we can't get to the big dance, that is why we are passionate supporters.

You got torched... just die on your sword.

[Bornadog]

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You got torched... just die on your sword.

No I didn't

[Dogs 24/7]

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No I didn't

Don't worry about it bad, it's not a competition. You were close enough in my opinion.

[GVGjr]

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The Sports Editor for the West Australian has come out strongly in defense of Footy reporter Mitchell Woodcock stating that saying that if anyone says anything negative about him they will be blocked. Woodcock has been asking the hard questions to Adam Simpson for the last season and a half and Simpson gave him a bit of whack in yesterdays presser.

Seems a bit of a double standard that from the Papers perspective reporters can go hard at the coaches and players etc because they are just informing their audience but the audience can't go hard at the reporter. Perhaps the paper who controls the headlines might have done the reporter a disservice with the way they presented their paper.

I heard Woodcock interviewed this morning and he seemed to accept the whack that Simpson gave him.

[Mantis]

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No I didn't

In what ****ing world is 'rarely out of the top 8' = to being in the top <50% of the time?

Humor me.

[Bornadog]

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In what ****ing world is 'rarely out of the top 8' = to being in the top <50% of the time?

Humor me.

9 seasons missed the 8, 3 times - that is rarely. I wasn't talking about week by week.

[Scraggers]

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In solidarity with my fellow whingers this sent me on a journey I don't recommend ...

Bevo's been in charge for a total of 219 home-and-away rounds, each ascribed a weekly ladder spot.

We've been inside the eight for 107 of those weeks.

We've been outside the eight for the remaining 112 weeks ... and let's call it 119 once the next 7 rounds are filed away.

So by season's end it'll break down at roughly 47% 'IN' / 53% 'OUT'.

Dunno if that's especially revelatory for any of us.

I would love to compare that stat to Simpson (Eagles) and Hinkley (Port). Considering that the Bulldogs have made the big dance twice under Bevo (as have the Eagles - both clubs with a 1 and 1 record); how does Hinkley compare?

[Rocket Science]

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I would love to compare that stat to Simpson (Eagles) and Hinkley (Port). Considering that the Bulldogs have made the big dance twice under Bevo (as have the Eagles - both clubs with a 1 and 1 record); how does Hinkley compare?

Good question. Over the same span commencing 2015 ...

Port under Hinkley have been inside the eight for 132 weeks or a shade over 60% 'IN' during the H-&-A season.

West Coast under Simpson have been inside the eight for 136 weeks or roughly 62% 'IN' during H-&-A rounds.

Digressing, Simpson's record before the Eagles plunged off a cliff at the end of 2021 is absurd ...

87% 'IN' from seasons '15 to '21 inclusive. Makes that farewell front page even shitter if at all feasible.

Regardless there you have it; Bevo sitting at 47% 'IN' versus a bloke who got the arse at 62% 'IN' and another with daggers perpetually out for him at 60% 'IN'. Fascinating.

This is a nice distraction from the carnage pending Saturday arvo thank you for asking.

[Bornadog]

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Good question. Over the same span commencing 2015 ...

Port under Hinkley have been inside the eight for 132 weeks or a shade over 60% 'IN' during the H-&-A season.

West Coast under Simpson have been inside the eight for 136 weeks or roughly 62% 'IN' during H-&-A rounds.

Digressing, Simpson's record before the Eagles plunged off a cliff at the end of 2021 is absurd ...

87% 'IN' from seasons '15 to '21 inclusive. Makes that farewell front page even shitter if at all feasible.

Regardless there you have it; Bevo sitting at 47% 'IN' versus a bloke who got the arse at 62% 'IN' and another with daggers perpetually out for him at 60% 'IN'. Fascinating.

This is a nice distraction from the carnage pending Saturday arvo thank you for asking.

Hinkley has never made a Grand final but has a good win/loss ratio. Week by week, although interesting, doesn't give the picture of the whole season.

Figures include Finals.

Hinkley - 2013-2024
Wins 158, Losses 106 - 59.885%

Simpson 2014-2024
Wins 122, Losses 119, plus draw - 50.62%

Bevo - 2015- 2024
Wins 124, Losses 98 - 55.86%

I would still prefer Simpson and Bevo with 1 Premiership and 2 Grand finals.

[1eyedog]

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I would straight swap Simmo for Bevo if that's the question.

[1eyedog]

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The Sports Editor for the West Australian has come out strongly in defense of Footy reporter Mitchell Woodcock stating that saying that if anyone says anything negative about him they will be blocked. Woodcock has been asking the hard questions to Adam Simpson for the last season and a half and Simpson gave him a bit of whack in yesterdays presser.

Seems a bit of a double standard that from the Papers perspective reporters can go hard at the coaches and players etc because they are just informing their audience but the audience can't go hard at the reporter. Perhaps the paper who controls the headlines might have done the reporter a disservice with the way they presented their paper.

I heard Woodcock interviewed this morning and he seemed to accept the whack that Simpson gave him.

Oooooooooo blocked.

[chef]

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I would straight swap Simmo for Bevo if that's the question.

Why?

[jazzadogs]

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I probably would rate Simpson higher than Bevo as a match day coach, and that's not to s*** on Bevo.

Both coaches got premierships from decent but not remarkable squads.

Simpsons issue for the last three years was that he had an old list which won a flag and then fell away rapidly. He did a remarkable job to keep the club together and hold on to his job during that period. He used his players in positions and roles that worked for them, and seemed willing to adapt the gameplan depending on personnel.

If Bevo left I'd be really happy to have Simpson as our coach.

[jeemak]

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Both Port and WCE have genuine home ground advantages, we don't. That counts for a lot in terms of home and away but I suppose is offset by additional travel to some extent.

To me they've enjoyed more balanced lists with genuine quality at the book ends and highly competent midfields more often and all at once, while Beveridge has only really ever had two of three for most of his career at best. Again, this is important for consistent home and away performances.

Hard to split Beveridge and Simpson, but we'll never know how Beveridge would have gone with the consistently high quality at both ends Simpson enjoyed (he'd have probably made them change ends or something I guess).