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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27655

    #16
    Re: Geelong

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I've been there just twice when we have won. It's a great feeling
    We had a decent run there in the Wallace years.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21830

      #17
      Re: Geelong

      Originally posted by mjp
      Very few teams have adequate cover if ruck option #1a goes down...we are ok.
      There's been a lot of heartburn around our ruck stocks rising up through the chests of Woofers in recent times. We clearly think you're better off having footballers who can play footy in the side rather than rucks who can only help in the ruck when in the side (and now it seems on the list), so if you're not going to play them why have them?

      This coming year we've got plenty of cover for English in Trengove, Bruce and Sweet, it's the last position I'd be worrying about now.
      Last edited by jeemak; 03-11-2019, 12:09 AM.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5113

        #18
        Re: Geelong

        Yep. Also with the inclusion of the mid season draft i think clubs are happier to risk it a bit and draft one there should they need.
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Geelong

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Who is this Faith bloke? How tall is he?
          First name Christian, former Saint. 😂

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27655

            #20
            Re: Geelong

            Originally posted by marcov
            First name Christian, former Saint. ��
            Burn the heretic!
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4234

              #21
              Re: Geelong

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Burn the heretic!
              He's been delisted. Faith no more.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #22
                Re: Geelong

                Talk about Dad’s Army their list !!
                Is anyone under 30 ?
                They’ll get that false economy going again winning there , and being decidedly average away from there
                Last edited by Remi Moses; 04-11-2019, 03:43 PM. Reason: Spelling

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                • ratsmac
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2009
                  • 3975

                  #23
                  Re: Geelong

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  Talk about Dad’s Army their list !!
                  Is anyone under 30 ?
                  They’ll get that false economy going again winning there , and being decidedly average away from there
                  It's good isn't it. They are blinded by their new light towers!!
                  They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                  Brian Fantana.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Geelong

                    Epic response SOS

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27655

                      #25
                      Re: Geelong

                      Originally posted by Remi Moses
                      Talk about Dad’s Army their list !!
                      Is anyone under 30 ?
                      They’ll get that false economy going again winning there , and being decidedly average away from there
                      I've told you guys before. Don't get me started on Dad's Army.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44636

                        #26
                        Re: Geelong

                        From the Hun,

                        Geelongs last role of the dice to get a flag?
                        As much as I despise some of their players (Read Harry Taylor ) they're incredibly successful at not only focusing on the next season or two with their trading but also developing the younger players. Three nominations for Rising Stars is an excellent achievement for a team that was primarily focused on trying to win a flag

                        They'll be around the mark again in 2020

                        1. PRIME TIME

                        It would seem 2020 is the year that Geelong must go all the way if they are to win a premiership with their current playing group. The Cats have the fourth-oldest playing list in the competition, set to start next season with an average age of 24.22. Gary Ablett is 35, Harry Taylor is 33, Tom Hawkins and Joel Selwood are both 31, Zach Tuohy is 30 and Patrick Dangerfield will be 30 in April. Taylor has said the reason he decided to play on for a 13th season was to “help the team win a premiership in 2020” and Ablett has spoken along similar lines. The Cats need to capitalise while their experienced stars remain, and the belief is clearly there that they can.

                        2. MASTER ABLETT

                        He has been the one of the greatest players in a generation and Gary Ablett is set to continue adding to his already impressive resume in his 19th season in 2020. Ablett is on track to play his 350th AFL game against St Kilda in Round 5 and will climb into the top-10 on the all-time games played list if he is able to line up in every game of the home-and-away season. The milestones will be more feathers in the cap of The Little Master, who is already a two-time Brownlow Medal winner, two-time premiership player, eight-time All-Australian and six-time club best-and-fairest. One of the most celebrated players in the Cats’ history is sure to be celebrated even more in his final year.

                        3. MIDFIELD STRENGTH


                        The Cats were devastated to lose 2019 All-Australian Tim Kelly, but fulfilled his wish to return home to Western Australia for family reasons and join West Coast during the trade period. Kelly was Geelong’s second-ranked player last season, averaging 25.4 disposals and 104 SuperCoach ranking points. However, despite his loss the Cats’ midfield remains well stocked and Champion Data ranks it the fourth-best engine room in the competition in terms of individual talent. Dangerfield leads the charge and was the third-ranked midfielder in the competition for total SuperCoach ranking points last season, while Mitch Duncan and Selwood made for three Cats among the top 43 on-ballers in the competition. The Cats also have some strong second-strings in Cameron Guthrie, Brandon Parfitt and Jordan Clark – the latter two of whom they will be hoping can further grow their games in 2020.

                        4. STEVEN ARRIVAL

                        Geelong might have snagged what could prove the steal of the 2019 trade period by securing Jack Steven from St Kilda in exchange for pick 58. Steven is a four-time Saints best-and-fairest with 183 games of AFL experience behind him who has been part of leadership groups in the past. While personal issues restricted Steven to just seven games last season, the midfielder averaged 27 disposals, 4.7 inside-50s, 5.5 clearances and 95 SuperCoach ranking points in 2018. At 29 years old, the Cats will be hoping he can return to health and play a leading role through the midfield in 2020.

                        5. JENKINS ARRIVAL

                        Former Adelaide forward Josh Jenkins is a polarising player and spent a large chunk of last season running around in the reserves at the Crows. However, the Cats would not have snapped him up during the trade period if they did not believe he could play a significant part in their forward line. Consistency of performance has not been a strength of Jenkins, particularly in recent years, but his best football does dazzle. Jenkins kicked four goals twice from 11 games last season and across his 147-game career he has booted a bag of eight majors as well as two hauls of seven goals. The 30-year-old was one of just 16 players to average two goals or more a game last season — something he has done for the past six years. If the Cats can get 40 goals out of him they will be thrilled.

                        6. FIT COCKATOO

                        He has played two games in two years due to a raft of injuries but Geelong fans are still holding out hope exciting midfielder-forward Nakia Cockatoo can get his body right and live up to his potential. The 23-year-old was given a one-year contract extension in August in a major show of faith from the Cats, who are hoping it pays off. He started pre-season training well, making an impression in the opening weeks, and coach Chris Scott has indicated he is very keen to see Cockatoo become a strong contested midfielder and will not be afraid to give him an early opportunity at senior level next season if he completes the majority of his summer program.

                        7. THE UNDER-23s

                        While they have a strong crop of experienced heads, the Cats also have some of the best under-23 players in the competition. Midfielder Charlie Constable (20), forward Gryan Miers (20) and wingman Jordan Clark (19) were all Rising Star nominees last season. Defenders Jack Henry (21) and Mark O’Connor (22), midfielder Brandan Parfitt (21) and forward Esava Ratugolea (21) have all got some good senior experience under their belts in recent years and similarly have plenty of upside which bodes well for the Cats not only in 2020 but for many years to come.

                        8. TWO TOP-20s

                        The national draft normally delivers some excitement for fans about the following season and Geelong had not one but two top-20 selections in November. The Cats secured local boy Cooper Stephens at No. 16, a composed Geelong Falcons midfielder who broke his leg after just three games in the NAB League last season but had still done enough to stay high on the draft boards of many clubs. At No. 19 they got developing key defender Sam De Koning, the brother of Carlton ruckman Tom De Koning. While De Koning would be unlikely to make a Round 1 debut, Stephens could certainly feature early in 2020 if he gets a full pre-season behind him.

                        CHAMPION DATA SAYS

                        The Cats have the seventh highest rated list with the biggest concern around their defence, who is rated 16th, with only Harry Taylor and Lachie Henderson ranked in the top-35% of the competition. Don’t underestimate the Cats forward line – rated as the fourth best in the competition.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10152

                          #27
                          Re: Geelong

                          I can't see them improving but they will (as always) be around the mark for finals.

                          Another side that has a big home ground advantage that almost gets them enough wins in itself, however reliance on aging stars who are still the majority of their best 10 players makes it tough.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66707

                            #28
                            Re: Geelong

                            As Champion Data mentioned, defense will be their biggest issue in 2020. They will be competitive once more, and it is always amazing how they are challenging year after year.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44636

                              #29
                              Re: Geelong

                              Anyone else surprised that Stephen Wells has been stood down by Geelong?

                              Pay cut for sure but I would imagine a list manager would be a required position with the pay cuts, a likely substantial cull of the playing list and a reduced salary cap.

                              They've opened the door for some other club to chase after Wells
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15307

                                #30
                                Re: Geelong

                                I was under the impression all list and recruiting staff have been stood down. I’d be surprised if Wells left, but these uncertain times he may be tempted.

                                A club like Essendon or Gold Coast should be sounding him out.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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