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  • Testekill
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 2327

    #16
    Re: Jesse Hogan

    Originally posted by bornadog
    You can't hit a parked car and flip yourself when you're sober. Like if you can do that and are sober than clearly you shouldn't be allowed to drive anymore

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14474

      #17
      Re: Jesse Hogan

      Originally posted by Testekill
      You can't hit a parked car and flip yourself when you're sober. Like if you can do that and are sober than clearly you shouldn't be allowed to drive anymore
      Drink or drugs ?
      Bring back the biff

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 22011

        #18
        Re: Jesse Hogan

        It's actually much easier to roll a car than it seems sometimes. Hit a heavier car that's still whilst flinging away from it and you're possibly done.

        He's really shat the bed in terms of public perception, but he's also very young and possibly very stupid which isn't something isolated to him. The best thing for him if his issues are reported correctly is for everyone to lay off a bit, but I can't see that happening.

        People talk about addiction, though for the most part addiction isn't an issue. Fun is the major draw card for someone his age, profession and socio-economic situation, and until somebody or a club or whoever makes footy fun more broadly there's going to be more and more Jesse Hogans. Literally speaking, alcohol and drugs, going out and enjoying time with your mates, will continue to be more fun than playing on an AFL list. If you don't believe me, just weigh up the pros and cons for a moment, without thinking about your own life preferences.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27664

          #19
          Re: Jesse Hogan

          Originally posted by jeemak
          It's actually much easier to roll a car than it seems sometimes. Hit a heavier car that's still whilst flinging away from it and you're possibly done.

          He's really shat the bed in terms of public perception, but he's also very young and possibly very stupid which isn't something isolated to him. The best thing for him if his issues are reported correctly is for everyone to lay off a bit, but I can't see that happening.

          People talk about addiction, though for the most part addiction isn't an issue. Fun is the major draw card for someone his age, profession and socio-economic situation, and until somebody or a club or whoever makes footy fun more broadly there's going to be more and more Jesse Hogans. Literally speaking, alcohol and drugs, going out and enjoying time with your mates, will continue to be more fun than playing on an AFL list. If you don't believe me, just weigh up the pros and cons for a moment, without thinking about your own life preferences.
          I aquaplaned the car just moving it from one parking spot to another spot across the road once. You just have to hit the accelerator at exactly the wrong time on a wet road and you end up in the neighbor's front yard! I had two kids in the car at the time so I wasn't in full rocket head mode either.

          Automatic high performance cars don't help.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            #20
            Re: Jesse Hogan

            Originally posted by Testekill
            You can't hit a parked car and flip yourself when you're sober. Like if you can do that and are sober than clearly you shouldn't be allowed to drive anymore
            You'd be surprised.

            Given what appears to be a lack of bumper/panel damage on the visible sides, I'm thinking distraction (on his phone) might have been a factor here.

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27664

              #21
              Re: Jesse Hogan

              Originally posted by westdog54
              You'd be surprised.

              Given what appears to be a lack of bumper/panel damage on the visible sides, I'm thinking distraction (on his phone) might have been a factor here.
              Ho do you reckon they got him out of the car? I'd have thought that the sunroof was the obvious escape hatch or is that really dangerous for a reason that hasn't occured to me?* Or is he still in it when the photo was taken?



              *Keeping in mind that I really, really like smashing my way through doors and I don't often stop to think about the alternatives.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6686

                #22
                Re: Jesse Hogan

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Ho do you reckon they got him out of the car? I'd have thought that the sunroof was the obvious escape hatch or is that really dangerous for a reason that hasn't occured to me?* Or is he still in it when the photo was taken?



                *Keeping in mind that I really, really like smashing my way through doors and I don't often stop to think about the alternatives.
                The sunroof wouldn't have been an issue if it was able to be opened manually. A bloke of Hogan's size probably would've toppled the car if he'd tried to climb out of the driver's door. Where you can avoid smashing a window, you avoid smashing a window.

                In saying that its not immediately obvious where he's exited from in that photo.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27664

                  #23
                  Re: Jesse Hogan

                  Originally posted by westdog54
                  The sunroof wouldn't have been an issue if it was able to be opened manually. A bloke of Hogan's size probably would've toppled the car if he'd tried to climb out of the driver's door. Where you can avoid smashing a window, you avoid smashing a window.

                  In saying that its not immediately obvious where he's exited from in that photo.
                  I reckon that he's still in the car in that photo.

                  Although I think that the airbags are deployed, I'm thinking there isn't room inside the car for the airbags to be full and a guy the size of Hogan.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    #24
                    Re: Jesse Hogan

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    I reckon that he's still in the car in that photo.

                    Although I think that the airbags are deployed, I'm thinking there isn't room inside the car for the airbags to be full and a guy the size of Hogan.
                    Now that I look at it again, I'm beginning to think he wasn't alone in the car.

                    The reason I say this is because one of the passenger side airbags appears to be deployed.

                    In some modern cars the airbags don't deploy if there isn't a seatbelt being worn by the occupant of that seat.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27664

                      #25
                      Re: Jesse Hogan

                      Originally posted by westdog54
                      Now that I look at it again, I'm beginning to think he wasn't alone in the car.

                      The reason I say this is because one of the passenger side airbags appears to be deployed.

                      In some modern cars the airbags don't deploy if there isn't a seatbelt being worn by the occupant of that seat.
                      Both bags are definitely deployed.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45026

                        #26
                        Re: Jesse Hogan

                        FREMANTLE star Jesse Hogan is taking time away from football for mental health reasons.

                        "Jesse needs time away from the club so he can manage mental health challenges that he is dealing with and focus on his general wellbeing," general manager of football Peter Bell said.

                        "We believe it is the most appropriate course of action and, more importantly, it is what is best for Jesse's long-term health and wellbeing.

                        "We will continue to provide all the necessary and ongoing care and support Jessie requires, as we would do for any of our players."

                        Hogan was recovering from foot surgery that restricted him to 12 games in his first season with the Dockers last year.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 15064

                          #27
                          Re: Jesse Hogan

                          Jesus the AFL world can be savage.

                          He's in his early 20s, lost his father, had cancer himself then has had a serious foot injury to deal with while being under enormous scrutiny and already there are people online spreading all sorts of rumours about him and slamming his character.

                          And people wonder why mental health issues are on the rise in the AFL.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45026

                            #28
                            Re: Jesse Hogan

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Jesus the AFL world can be savage.

                            He's in his early 20s, lost his father, had cancer himself then has had a serious foot injury to deal with while being under enormous scrutiny and already there are people online spreading all sorts of rumours about him and slamming his character.

                            And people wonder why mental health issues are on the rise in the AFL.
                            He's very fortunate that he's in an environment that is highly professional and very aware of the MH challenges sportsman might face
                            We shouldn't question why, just accept that Freo will fully support him
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27664

                              #29
                              Re: Jesse Hogan

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              He's very fortunate that he's in an environment that is highly professional and very aware of the MH challenges sportsman might face
                              We shouldn't question why, just accept that Freo will fully support him
                              Well said Gary. Nobody can pretend to understand what struggles are going in in someone else's mind. But like you say the ilver lining is he is in an environment where he will be looked after and nurtured. And the competitive environment and physical nature of training for AFL footy should be good for him to
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • AshMac
                                WOOF Member
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 1712

                                #30
                                Re: Jesse Hogan

                                SEN reporting (via some WA journo) that Freo are getting close to deciding to move Hogan on.

                                Apparently he has lost the confidence of the coaching staff and senior playing list and has been too undisciplined.

                                Performance based contract so minimum $ impact.

                                The dam wall has busted!

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