Jesse Hogan

[Bornadog]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Coming from a hub with (obviously) no cases, from a state with virtually no cases.....

Rules are rules

[EasternWest]

Re: Jesse Hogan

I'm starting to think that maybe Jesse's a bit of an idiot.

[Axe Man]

Re: Jesse Hogan

I'm starting to think that maybe Jesse's a bit of an idiot.

What makes you say that?

[Bornadog]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Was a smart arse to Tom Boyd as well in a game carrying on about Tom's contract dollars.

[jeemak]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Was a smart arse to Tom Boyd as well in a game carrying on about Tom's contract dollars.

Well we all know how that turned out...…..

[Twodogs]

Re: Jesse Hogan

That's pretty stiff. Wonder how he was dobbed in?

Sounds like Jesse might have been at various times during the visit too.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

[ledge]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

Stringer got a flag too

[Mofra]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

You could almost put Hipwood in there too as someone who looked like a world beater but will be "very good" rather than a superstar he once promised to be.

One generation afterwards look like absolute stars though - the King twins and Naughton all look in a hurry to be the best 3 KPFs in the game sooner rather than later.
Then there's Lukosious who is playing back but is a sublime field kick for a big man and will clearly get better as he fills out. If he does go forward he & Ben King will be an incredible combo. Fogarty and Larkey are a rung below but look like they'll have long careers.

[comrade]

Re: Jesse Hogan

The golden generation was a false dawn before the coming of the true messiah...

Jamarra.

[Ozza]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

Of those names, Hogan and Stringer have shown the most at AFL level clearly...but haven't had the attitude to really cement themselves as a top player in the game. The others seem to be a case of recruiters getting carried away with big kids dominating the junior competitions.

[comrade]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Of those names, Hogan and Stringer have shown the most at AFL level clearly...but haven't had the attitude to really cement themselves as a top player in the game. The others seem to be a case of recruiters getting carried away with big kids dominating the junior competitions.

I definitely think we've seen the last of big chunky 195-2m+ kids getting picked at the top end of the draft.

[mjp]

Re: Jesse Hogan

Funny how that golden generation of forwards has amounted to very little......Peter Wright, Jesse Hogan, Jake Stringer, Paddy McCartin, Patton......even Boyd, though he won a premiership, probably never reached his peak (not a criticism, just an observation)

Having coached in the pathway a bit, the ones who came through were:

2011 - Patton was the big bad.
2012 - All about the boy Daniher - but Hogan played as a 17 year old and was pretty handy.
2013 - Tom Boyd all day - but injured in Perth (ankle). McCartin was a bottom-ager who looked the best of anyone. We'll never know on Hogan as he was drafted a year early (along with Jack Martin...and Jaeger O'Meara the year before...I'm not bitter). McCarthy was the late comer and had a couple of amazing games in the champs.**
2014 - Was supposed to be McCartin but...well...diabetes was knocking him about and he didn't look the same player. 2m Peter was all the rage but was splitting time in the ruck and his mobility was being HEAVILY questioned.
2015 - The one (well, one of the ones!) you missed. Josh Schache. Long left footer who I think set the gk record for the champs after beating up on the worst collection of 18year olds ever assembled (maybe a big call, but jeesh)...though to be fair Geelong did select a young kpp by the name of Ryan Gardner so it couldn't have been all bad!

** - McCarthy won the award for "Pulling the wool over the recruiters eyes" this year.

This isn't to say he isn't talented (he is), just that every year a player does the following:
- Appears on the scene 'LATE' - as in has never been involved in the pathway before. McCarthy was training with an amateur club and wasn't really even on the radar of his WAFL club in January.
- Player is thrust to the forefront. In Cam's case, there was literally 'no-one else'...he kicked a few goals for SF and was in the state squad.
- Player has a good but not 'unbelievable' champs.
- Player immediately on impressing everyone, suffers season ending BUT non-'critical' injury. In Cam's case, broken leg in final game of champs (just before half time) cost him the rest of the season.

This happens every year. With players they know - they look back. With players they don't, they project forward. (They = club recruiters). With McCarthy, they knew nothing so projected ahead with a 195cm mobile forward and...hey presto, 1st round pick.