Collingwood and the Cap

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Collingwood and the Cap

They wouldn’t want a first rounder this year, owing to Daicos. We’d need it to cover Darcy.

Spitballing. So a future first rounder, Young to give them KP depth for Moore leaving and then a genuinely good player. Would Richards (yet to re-commit) and a famous club family be enough? Or is it more Bailey Smith?

If the Treloar trade is anything to go by I'd offer them Will Hayes and a future 2nd.

[comrade]

Re: Collingwood and the Cap

They wouldn’t want a first rounder this year, owing to Daicos. We’d need it to cover Darcy.

Spitballing. So a future first rounder, Young to give them KP depth for Moore leaving and then a genuinely good player. Would Richards (yet to re-commit) and a famous club family be enough? Or is it more Bailey Smith?

Future first and Ed Richards, where do I sign?

[Grantysghost]

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I mean, if it was even a possibility, you would hope we'd do everything in our...power...to make it happen. Moore in our backline, I can't even fathom how good it would be.

It’s just never going to happen. The members would riot.

[GVGjr]

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Future first and Ed Richards, where do I sign?

That's a seriously bad and one sided deal. Surely we should be asking Collingwood to pay 300K of his salary each of the next 3 years ?

[Axe Man]

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The thing you are all overlooking is that Ned Guy doesn't work at the pies anymore. Graham Wright won't be so easy to outmaneuver. Unless we bring in Steve Kolyniuk as a special negotiator...

[bulldogtragic]

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There’s an article on afel.com.au now too. Wright didn’t need to declare any of this right now. He clearly wanted to (maybe before lockdowns affect player values). Seems like an open invitation for Sam Power (& 16 others) to make enquires with him and Collingwood player managers.

Be it us, or other clubs, if they can trade out Moore (FA next year, $800,000) and bring in a good pick and a very good younger player (on less money too) then they fix their TPP whilst bringing in talent for the rebuild. If not Moore, maybe DeGoey?

I also wonder if we should be really, really hard at Moore. Because we already have a huge bargaining chip: Treloar’s salary on Collingwood’s books. Not only can we try to engage on a Moore trade, but we can offer renegotiation of that Treloar salary. They owe an average $300,000 a season. Maybe we agree to take some of that on to secure a suitable trade (ie future 1st & Richards - if Schache’s not in the plans next year we can include him and pay 1/2 his salary). Add Wallis and others to the outgoing salary list on top of our ‘wiggle room’ and we can squeeze in.

Cash is still a problem for them. We can help them on both Treloar & Moore salaries (fixing their TPP) and provide them a first round drafted good player and another first rounder. At least worth a few chats I’d think.

[macca]

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Bringing in a player like Moore, could help us get to that premiership. Imaging swinging Naughton and Moore between forward and defence? It would create nightmares for opposition teams.

It be worth the $$$ spent to get that premiership.

[bulldogtragic]

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Bringing in a player like Moore, could help us get to that premiership. Imaging swinging Naughton and Moore between forward and defence? It would create nightmares for opposition teams.

It be worth the $$$ spent to get that premiership.

Some favourites would have to go to ensure enough salary cap is free like Wallis, Lipinski, Jong, Richards (if that’s the trade) and others like Cavarra, Hayes and possibly Schache and one of Cordy/Young.

Moore had played his footy for the most part with Varcoe & Treloar so we have some familiar faces with Bonts & Bevo for a meet and greet. That Treloar salary on their books is 3D chess stuff:

Power says he doesn’t want Treloar. Then he does but a huge salary left on Collingwoods books. Then Collingwood agree in the last few seconds. Then Power goes back to Collingwood this year and offers for them to keep some of their own money to get another best 5 player of theirs this year...

The +/- $1.2M noosed around Collingwoods TPP makes us a very good potential trade partner IMO.

[Dry Rot]

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How are Moore's hamstrings?

[soupman]

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Some favourites would have to go to ensure enough salary cap is free like Wallis, Lipinski, Jong, Richards (if that’s the trade) and others like Cavarra, Hayes and possibly Schache and one of Cordy/Young.

Um are you serious? Atm I would only offer three guys in that entire paragraph a contract in 2022, and they are at best on the absolute fringe of our 22 (Lipinski, Richards and Cordy).

And surely none of them are eating up much salary by themselves.

[bulldogtragic]

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Um are you serious? Atm I would only offer three guys in that entire paragraph a contract in 2022, and they are at best on the absolute fringe of our 22 (Lipinski, Richards and Cordy).

And surely none of them are eating up much salary by themselves.

Might be at cross purposes, perhaps I was not succinct. I was saying in such a scenario we need to open up more cap space (and spots) collectively. In addition to a good player involved in a hypothetical trade.

[Mofra]

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It’s just never going to happen. The members would riot.

They already are.
I think they try to keep him, then lose him as a FA next year.

They other KPD is Roughy who is on the wrong side of 30.

[Happy Days]

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That's frankly unbelievable that they're still suffering from a cap squeeze. Why don't they just can De Goey and keep the actual good players?

[EasternWest]

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That's frankly unbelievable that they're still suffering from a cap squeeze. Why don't they just can De Goey and keep the actual good players?

Sunk cost fallacy.

DeGoey definitely has a case of the "Stringer". Difference is we figured it out.

[Mofra]

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Grundy, de Goey, Pendles, Adams, Moore and $500k pa for Mayne.

Who the hell else are they paying? Jamie Elliott probably on good coin after Collingwood out-bid Melbourne's FA attempt. Daicos Jnr?