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  • The Adelaide Connection
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2009
    • 2805

    The Sound of Silence

    It may end up being a moot point (if the season gets scratched) but how do you all see playing to an empty stadia impacting players, games and the whole viewing experience?

    I am interested to see the impact on goal kicking accuracy and overall skills. The mental side of the game is arguably one of the biggest hurdles (especially in inexperienced players) and crowd sounds certainly play a part in that.

    I predict that WC and Adelaide enjoy probably the biggest advantage from crowd sound both in terms of motivating players, putting off opposition, and influencing umpires (something that has ground my gears for years). The free-kick differential in the West over a long time, in particular, is outrageous.
    The traditional big clubs certainly get this against lower drawing clubs too. We may see home ground advantage diluted quite a bit.

    From a viewing point of view, the predominantly commentator and whistle only noises may just make me finally turn the sound off completely. There may be an opportunity to pick up more player direction and banter, which could be an interesting insight.
    Last edited by The Adelaide Connection; 15-03-2020, 02:33 PM.
  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27664

    #2
    Re: The Sound of Silence

    Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
    It may end up being a moot point (if the season gets scratched) but how do see playing to an empty stadia impacting players, games and the whole viewing experience?

    I am interested to see the impact on accuracy and overall skills. The mental side of the game is arguably one of the biggest hurdles (especially in inexperienced players) and crowd sounds certainly plays its part in that.

    I predict that WC and Adelaide enjoy probably the biggest advantage from crowd sound both in terms of motivating players, putting off opposition, and influencing umpires (something that has ground my gears for years). The free kick differential in the West over a long time, in particular, is outrageous.
    The traditional big clubs certainly get this against lower drawing clubs too. We may see home ground advantage diluted quite a bit.

    From a viewing point of view, the predominantly commentator and whistle only noises may just make me finally turn the sound off completely. There may be an opportunity to pick up more player direction and banter, which could be an interesting insight.
    I'm sort of looking forward to seeing what the experience is like watching on TV with no crowd noise. It's something different and they say a change is as good as a holiday.

    Do you remember the 15 minutes of the Grand Final up until Cordy kicked the goal? THAT was eerie and strange, 100 000 people sitting watching the game in almost complete silence is one of the weirdest things I have experienced. About ten minutes into the game I realized that somebody was tapping me on the back. I turned around and a bloke pointed to FDOTM and said "could you just tell your mate that we all really appreciate his cartoons?" I said "Mate, tell him your*!*!*!*!ingself, I'M BUSY!!!!
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45001

      #3
      Re: The Sound of Silence

      It's going to be a different experience for the fans and the players and I'm not sure how it will resonate with either of them
      Uncharted territories for all concerned.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: The Sound of Silence

        They should let fans into the game, but quarantine them. Perhaps have us drive in our cars around the ground/boundary line, and sit in them. We could toot our car horns and flash our high beams after every goal. At least they'd be some atmosphere.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • westdog54
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6686

          #5
          Re: The Sound of Silence

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          I'm sort of looking forward to seeing what the experience is like watching on TV with no crowd noise. It's something different and they say a change is as good as a holiday.

          Do you remember the 15 minutes of the Grand Final up until Cordy kicked the goal? THAT was eerie and strange, 100 000 people sitting watching the game in almost complete silence is one of the weirdest things I have experienced. About ten minutes into the game I realized that somebody was tapping me on the back. I turned around and a bloke pointed to FDOTM and said "could you just tell your mate that we all really appreciate his cartoons?" I said "Mate, tell him your*!*!*!*!ingself, I'M BUSY!!!!
          Ever watched a rugby game in Ireland?

          There's almost an unwritten convention adding spectators that when a player is kicking for goal, no matter which team he plays for, he's allowed to kick the ball without distraction. It's eerie.

          Footy without a crowd noise will take some getting used to.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27664

            #6
            Re: The Sound of Silence

            Originally posted by westdog54
            Ever watched a rugby game in Ireland?

            There's almost an unwritten convention adding spectators that when a player is kicking for goal, no matter which team he plays for, he's allowed to kick the ball without distraction. It's eerie.

            Footy without a crowd noise will take some getting used to.
            Funnily enough I have, but you already knew I am a huge fan of the rugby Union way of playing the game.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4265

              #7
              Re: The Sound of Silence

              I tuned into UFC Fight Night this morning. It was in Brazil, usually a very boisterous crowd but today, it was only the officials, fighters and coaches ringside.

              In the absence of fans, you could hear the crack and thud of different strikes and really clearly pick up the coaching advice which was interesting. Relying on the commentary to drive the energy made for a poorer viewing experience. I actually usually enjoy the team that cover their events but they really missed the hype behind them.

              it just felt not as important to anyone. In a sport that I think can easily be covered on ppv etc in lieu of in front of a live crowd, it was OK but a little bit off. The AFL has a real problem, with less talented broadcasters and a much stronger, cultural element of fan participation that won't be there.
              Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67288

                #8
                Re: The Sound of Silence

                Will be strange watching, but as long as we win, I don't care.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Rocket Science
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 4866

                  #9
                  Re: The Sound of Silence

                  The player I feel for most is Jakey.

                  Who's he going to pump up WWF-style when he jags a meaningless cheapie out the back?
                  BORDERLINE FLYING

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14466

                    #10
                    Re: The Sound of Silence

                    Grand final no crowd now that will be pretty weird.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • Eastdog
                      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 18321

                      #11
                      Re: The Sound of Silence

                      Will be very strange that's if the season goes ahead first.
                      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #12
                        Re: The Sound of Silence

                        Thinking through all of the longer term financial implications of the empty stadiums makes me glad we are debt free leading into it.

                        All being well, we should hopefully be in a position to ride out the storm.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13310

                          #13
                          Re: The Sound of Silence

                          Originally posted by SonofScray
                          I tuned into UFC Fight Night this morning. It was in Brazil, usually a very boisterous crowd but today, it was only the officials, fighters and coaches ringside.

                          In the absence of fans, you could hear the crack and thud of different strikes and really clearly pick up the coaching advice which was interesting. Relying on the commentary to drive the energy made for a poorer viewing experience. I actually usually enjoy the team that cover their events but they really missed the hype behind them.

                          it just felt not as important to anyone. In a sport that I think can easily be covered on ppv etc in lieu of in front of a live crowd, it was OK but a little bit off. The AFL has a real problem, with less talented broadcasters and a much stronger, cultural element of fan participation that won't be there.
                          They need a two supporters one from each club with 'ball' and cheering noise buttons with a direct feed to the telecast audio.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • SonofScray
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 4265

                            #14
                            Re: The Sound of Silence

                            From a book I read called "Authenticity"

                            "According to Brian Eno, carnival is the key to real culture. When spectators become part of the proceedings themselves, then the event takes on an authenticity it didn’t previously have. Carnival is good when it leaves the people with the feeling that life in all its bizarre manifestations is unbeatably lovely and touching and funny and worthwhile.”
                            Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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                            • jazzadogs
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5718

                              #15
                              Re: The Sound of Silence

                              Originally posted by westdog54
                              Thinking through all of the longer term financial implications of the empty stadiums makes me glad we are debt free leading into it.

                              All being well, we should hopefully be in a position to ride out the storm.
                              I would be very worried if I was a North or St Kilda supporter...

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