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  • Dry Rot
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6432

    Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

    For me, these two are the best two tall forwards in the last decade. I don't rate Hawkins, J Riewoldt or Cameron as highly. Obviously, Redpath is close.

    Different players and skills sets. Both terrific.

    Do you agree?

    And the really hard question - which is better?

    Someone else who isn't as lazy as me may post their stats for us all.

    Over to you.
    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66082

    #2
    Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

    The stats

    Player Statistics Comparison
    Lance Franklin Name Joshua Kennedy
    Sydney Swans Team West Coast Eagles
    Forward Position Forward
    300 Career Games 251
    Perth Origin East Fremantle
    January 30, 1987 Date of Birth August 25, 1987
    33yr 5mth Age 32yr 11mth
    199cm Height 196cm
    105kg Weight 102kg
    2004 National Draft Last Drafted In 2005 National Draft
    Round 1, Pick #5 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #4
    Hawthorn Hawks Last Drafted By Carlton Blues
    Career Stats for Season Career
    300 Games 251
    3286 Kicks 2079
    1359 Handballs 721
    4645 Disposals 2800
    1662 Marks 1429
    944 Goals 629
    677 Behinds 349
    768 Tackles 570
    36 Hitouts 55
    383 Frees For 279
    585 Frees Against 256

    Franklin way ahead - goals, but has played 48 more games
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6432

      #3
      Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

      Great stuff BAD, thanks for the stats.

      Obviously Buddy is ahead on goals, so do you prefer him?

      I have seen a fair bit of the Swans live. Buddy has kicked some fine goals in pressure games, but also a heap in games when the Swans are all over the opposition.

      Interesting that the Swans got Franklin, and then never won another flag, despite being IIRC in two grannies with him.

      Which player is the best standing up in the big games?
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66082

        #4
        Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

        Buddy is one of my favourite players outside the Dogs. His physical presence on the ground is huge and you know he is so dangerous when he gets the ball. His athleticism is what makes him a better player than Kennedy.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • MrMahatma
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 3965

          #5
          Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

          Buddy for sure.

          Kennedy has been great. Buddy is all time.

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 17920

            #6
            Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

            Buddy is a freak and will go down as one of the greats.

            Kennedy had a tumultuous start, struggling with Carlton before being thrown in as part of the Judd deal. Once he grew into his body, his huge frame, explosive first few steps and vice like grip made him pretty impossible to deal with on his day.

            You'd take Buddy of course, but you'd be pretty happy with Kennedy either way. Just goes to show that young forwards need some time to develop, because the good ones are always worth it.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14867

              #7
              Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

              Buddy is one of the greatest players of all time.
              Kennedy is one of the greatest players of his generation.

              That's probably where they sit, with no disrespect meant towards Kennedy. He's been a very good player for a long time.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                #8
                Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                Happy with both, but Franklin is one of the best players I've seen, and a big game performer.

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                  Franklin for me
                  Kennedy has been brilliant, and I love how much it hurts kernahan seeing him play

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    #10
                    Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                    Buddy all the way. I actually thought Kennedy was younger than he is too.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10083

                      #11
                      Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                      Buddy is the best player ever so Buddy. Kennedy is fantastic but it's not close.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3924

                        #12
                        Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                        Fun post DR

                        Franklin is ahead given his ground work - perhaps not as good a set shot as Kennedy but gets his goals in a wider variety of ways - more able to get up the ground and get involved and create for others. And has absolutely owned some big games - I dont want to watch him destroying us in an Eade era final but if Id barracked for another team I would have been able to enjoy one of the best games produced.

                        Kennedy is the more traditional big whose stock standard trade is mark and goal - terrific footballer - underrated because of his lack of media presence/reticence, and having played most of his career in WA.

                        I think youve nailed the best two of the era - the other three are good footballers - Hawkins and Riewoldt have both had excellent careers. IMO Cameron plays more like a half forward flanker and just disappears to much for someone of his talent.

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11115

                          #13
                          Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                          Kennedy has given us (and many others) nightmares over the years. He's such a good player, WC won huge out of that trade. Miles more valuable than Judd despite what media may say.

                          I think Kennedy is the more reliable shot on goal and clearly the better mark, but Bud is an absolute freak capable of things most players can only dream about.

                          Been a real pleasure to watch Bud over the years, remarkable how many goals (and shots at goal) he's had in a time where F50 is so congested.
                          W00F!

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44272

                            #14
                            Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                            You would have to think we would have rucked Kennedy perhaps even more than we did with Boyd

                            I don't think you could lose picking either of them
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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 17920

                              #15
                              Re: Josh Kennedy vs Buddy Franklin

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              You would have to think we would have rucked Kennedy perhaps even more than we did with Boyd

                              I don't think you could lose picking either of them
                              To be fair, if Boyd had the ability to mark like Kennedy, we wouldn't have had to find another role for him.

                              He just couldn't mark the ball with any consistency, which for a full time forward is kind of mandatory.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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