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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18739

    Re: 2020 Player movement

    Originally posted by ratsmac
    Would we have any interest in Polec? I honestly don't know the pros and cons about him as a player but from what I've seen he can certainly play. If Norf cough up some of his salary I can see him sitting on a wing opposite Hunter. You have to wonder though what the reasons are that the Kangas are keen to move him on.
    Three clubs in his career already looking at a fourth, you'd have to ask the question for sure whether there's something NQR.
    The rumour goes he was asked to run with Cripps and refused but no idea if true.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5441

      Re: 2020 Player movement

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Preuss on the move. At just 25 years old, could be a good pickup
      I cannot see any possible way that Bevo would play Preuss in anything other than an extreme emergency.

      He certainly doesn't appear to have the aerobic capacity to be the extra midfielder that Bevo requires and as a second ruck, where could we hide him. Bevo would prefer Dunkley.
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • Dry Rot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6425

        Re: 2020 Player movement

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        I cannot see any possible way that Bevo would play Preuss in anything other than an extreme emergency.

        He certainly doesn't appear to have the aerobic capacity to be the extra midfielder that Bevo requires and as a second ruck, where could we hide him. Bevo would prefer Dunkley.
        Forgetting about minor matters such as availability, what current rucks (or reserve rucks) would Bevo want, and more importantly use?

        Or is it a case we will never play a second ruck and just perhaps get another one in case English goes down?

        If the latter, why would such a ruckman want to come to us and possibly never play?
        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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        • The Adelaide Connection
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2009
          • 2710

          Re: 2020 Player movement

          Originally posted by Grantysghost
          Three clubs in his career already looking at a fourth, you'd have to ask the question for sure whether there's something NQR.
          The rumour goes he was asked to run with Cripps and refused but no idea if true.
          When he came to Port from Brisbane he allegedly presented in awful shape. A mate of mine was at an amateur club that Polec joined up with in preseason to try to help get in shape after Port gave him a bollocking. Apparently he was off the back of the pack in every running drill. My mate also told me he was known to like to party.

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          • The Doctor
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 3701

            Re: 2020 Player movement

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            JYE CALDWELL (GWS)

            Draft picks: Late first-round / early second-round pick
            Value on open market: $400,000-500,000 per season
            Think this could be a shrewd investment. I would especially at 400k

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            TOBY NANKERVIS (RICH)

            Draft picks: Early-to-mid second-round pick
            Value on open market: $450,000-550,000 per season
            I would do this but he's likely to remain at the Tigers

            Originally posted by The Doctor

            XAVIER O'HALLORAN (GWS)

            Draft picks: Mid-to-late second round pick
            Value on open market: $250,000-350,000 per season
            I like this idea but think a 3rd round pick is more appropriate.

            Originally posted by The Doctor

            JACK LONIE (STK)

            Draft picks: Late second-round / early third-round pick
            Value on open market: $250,000-350,000 per season
            I don't see it myself. No chance a 2nd rounder surely.
            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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            • EasternWest
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 9929

              Re: 2020 Player movement

              Originally posted by ratsmac
              Would we have any interest in Polec? I honestly don't know the pros and cons about him as a player but from what I've seen he can certainly play. If Norf cough up some of his salary I can see him sitting on a wing opposite Hunter. You have to wonder though what the reasons are that the Kangas are keen to move him on.
              I'd rather Graham Polak
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10898

                Re: 2020 Player movement

                Originally posted by EasternWest
                I'd rather Graham Polak
                I'd' rather the tram.

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                • EasternWest
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 9929

                  Re: 2020 Player movement

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  I'd' rather the tram.
                  At least you know a tram will go forward and back and not discriminate in its efforts.

                  Polec is like a Shaun Higgins except crapper and one sided.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65618

                    Re: 2020 Player movement

                    Originally posted by The Doctor
                    Think this could be a shrewd investment. I would especially at 400k. JYE CALDWELL (GWS)
                    One rumour had us interested in him.
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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7652

                      Re: 2020 Player movement

                      That’s pretty good value for Caldwell. I suspect it will be more than that if a bidding ware ensues.

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17845

                        Re: 2020 Player movement

                        Can honestly say I have no idea if Caldwell is any good or not. I didn't watch a heap of GWS this year (they were insipid most of time I did) and if Caldwell played in the game time I saw, he didn't stand out or do anything of note.
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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10898

                          Re: 2020 Player movement

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          One rumour had us interested in him.
                          I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?

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                          • The Adelaide Connection
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2710

                            Re: 2020 Player movement

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?
                            Like you I’ve only seen us linked to O’Halloran (who is a dogs fan so hopefully that goes in our favour). I’d take them both, but I’m not sure how, won’t have much left by the time the Crows screw us into burning maximum points on JUH.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65618

                              Re: 2020 Player movement

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              I've not seen us linked to Caldwell, are you sure you aren't thinking of O'Halloran?
                              Nope, Caldwell - but it was a rumour

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                              Jye Caldwell from GWS to where?



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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5079

                                Re: 2020 Player movement

                                Some of these trade values are ridiculous considering how little equivalent players have been traded for in the past.
                                Originally posted by The Doctor


                                XAVIER O'HALLORAN (GWS)


                                Draft picks: Mid-to-late second round pick
                                Aiden Bonar was also a high draft pick that barely played in his first two seasons through a combination of injuries and form. Went to North with a future 4th rounder for a future 3rd rounder, so stuff all.

                                Originally posted by The Doctor

                                JACK LONIE (STK)

                                Draft picks: Late second-round / early third-round pick
                                Dan Butler was a Premiership winning small forward that was on the fringes of selection that was traded for pick 56.

                                Lincoln McCarthy was a promising small forward that after many years in the system had been unable to secure himself a place in Geelongs forwardline, traded for an upgrade of pick 55 to 43 (and a downgrade of 59 to 62).

                                Gary Rohan was an established foward with unique attributes and a pretty decent career excluding finals. Traded for pick 62.

                                Dean Kent/Sam Lloyd are almost exact copies of Lonie in that they were fringe players that could perform on the day but never really found themselves secure in Melbournes/Richmonds team, traded for pick 65/64 respectively.

                                Who the hell would even consider an early third (pick 40ish, let alone a late second (30ish)?

                                Originally posted by The Doctor
                                NATHAN BROAD (RICH)

                                Draft picks: Mid-to-late second-round pick
                                Hahahahahaha.

                                Taylor Duryea, Nic Newman, Jack Scrimshaw went for a future fourth/future fourth/future third with a future fourth going the other way.

                                Sam Frost is probably a best case scenario trade and that was a a future second round pick and pick 50 for 42, 61 and a future fourth with Frost, and Broad is worth a lot less than Frost who is at least tall.

                                Who is stumping up mid to late second round picks for a role playing medium defender whose biggest asset is his girlfriends chest (allegedly)?

                                Originally posted by The Doctor

                                NAKIA COCKATOO (GEEL)


                                Draft picks: Third-round pick
                                The guy has been in the system for 6 years, is about to turn 24, and has played just 34 games due to a body made out of crepe paper, despite Geelong desperately play him whenever he looked close to fit. Bont is from the same draft and has played 110 more games than him.

                                He is worth nothing, but I'd probably put him in the same category as McCarthy and Bonar, so a future 3rd for a future 4th and Cockatoo seems about right.

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                                Fringe players are worth stuff all on the trading market, there's basically four trade values going around:

                                Gun: Asking price is two first rounders, you might get that but you'll be giving something back the other way, otherwise how does a first and a second for a third and the player sound?

                                Very good player: Asking price is a first rounder, late teens pick incoming (or two second rounders pretending to be worth the same).

                                Player with heaps of potential and promising formline: Second rounder incoming, but it'll be a late one.

                                Any kind of role player, super injured player, or fringe player: Ask for a third rounder, end up getting stuff all.
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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