2020 Player movement

[Sedat]

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Yeah, he’s their best player and the exact type we’re missing. We don’t need another big key defender, we need someone who reads the ball and takes marks.

Sounds a lot like Keath circa 2019

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Sounds a lot like Keath circa 2019

Yep we need a big 1v1 defender so Keath can go back to intercepting.

[ledge]

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Any decent Bombers we should be talking to?

Hard to say because the environment is so bad they haven’t been given the best in development.
Silly Tippa had his chance to get out last year , I would have taken him.

[soupman]

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Ridley

Out of contract still I believe, which is crazy. McGrath is as well.

The only other Bombers i think worth looking at are Zach Merrett, who would be good on a wing for us but would cost us everything. Aaron Francis is the other, hasn't really made it work, nearly left a couple of years ago and has done little since. He's not really a type we are screaming out for, but there is upside there and if we make the cuts to our list that we should we could do worse than give someone like him a spot.

[DOG GOD]

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Out of contract still I believe, which is crazy. McGrath is as well.

The only other Bombers i think worth looking at are Zach Merrett, who would be good on a wing for us but would cost us everything. Aaron Francis is the other, hasn't really made it work, nearly left a couple of years ago and has done little since. He's not really a type we are screaming out for, but there is upside there and if we make the cuts to our list that we should we could do worse than give someone like him a spot.

When crows were sniffing around Francis a few years ago, dodo demanded 2 first round picks, and Francis had only played a few games haha.

[hujsh]

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How the F do they get these players? And how the hell do they fit them into their salary cap ? Must be a bottomless pit. No way can they afford all of Williams, saad, Martin, McGovern, curnow and Cripps, plus Murphy, weitering and the likes. Geez.

I did see some sort of explanation on this. Supposedly have a couple years of banked cap and some frontloaded contracts like McGovern and Martin.

[Mofra]

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I did see some sort of explanation on this. Supposedly have a couple years of banked cap and some frontloaded contracts like McGovern and Martin.

Martin was front-loaded to $1m this year so no other club could match his contract and jump ahead of Carlton in the PSD.

Losing Kreuzer frees up cash as well.

[azabob]

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I did see some sort of explanation on this. Supposedly have a couple years of banked cap and some frontloaded contracts like McGovern and Martin.

From The Age

"Carlton had significant salary-cap space for 2021, due to an under-spend over the past seasons, which the Blues had to take advantage of or they would lose that additional money to spend on players. Teams that don't spend all of their salary cap in a season can "bank'' the money and spend in the subsequent two years and exceed the salary cap in the subsequent years."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/trade-news-adam-saad-is-seeking-a-trade-to-carlton-20201006-p562kb.html

[Grantysghost]

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From The Age

"Carlton had significant salary-cap space for 2021, due to an under-spend over the past seasons, which the Blues had to take advantage of or they would lose that additional money to spend on players. Teams that don't spend all of their salary cap in a season can "bank'' the money and spend in the subsequent two years and exceed the salary cap in the subsequent years."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...06-p562kb.html

This whole banking system is on the nose to me. You have a cap for one reason. So you don't spend more than other clubs in a given season to gain an advantage.
This just flies in the face of that. So what Carlton can spend 10 percent more than everyone else next season? Should teams just load up for one year like some local clubs. Not sure I get it.
If they used the money they didn't spend on the cap on other things in the business like the footy department, community programs, player education etc. a commensurate amount over the soft cap that would make more sense to me.
Is this another U.S. system they've copied ?

[Bornadog]

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From The Age

"Carlton had significant salary-cap space for 2021, due to an under-spend over the past seasons, which the Blues had to take advantage of or they would lose that additional money to spend on players. Teams that don't spend all of their salary cap in a season can "bank'' the money and spend in the subsequent two years and exceed the salary cap in the subsequent years."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...06-p562kb.html

Here comes Dodoro.

“Although we wish Adam all the best, he is not a free agent and therefore a suitable trade will need to be forthcoming from Carlton. Clearly, there is an expectation of compelling compensation for a player of Adam’s calibre.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Here comes Dodoro.

If there's one thing you can always count on in any given year, It's Dodo and Essendon waltzing into Trade Period with the intention of 'winning at all costs'...how's the worked out for them these past 16 years or so???

[hujsh]

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If there's one thing you can always count on in any given year, It's Dodo and Essendon waltzing into Trade Period with the intention of 'winning at all costs'...how's the worked out for them these past 16 years or so???

Given how they dealt with the Suns for Martin last year I wouldn't mind Carton being bent over by Dodo just a bit.

North look like having the cap space and salary for him if they go PSD again

[Axe Man]

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Gold Coast chasing Oleg Markov from Richmond.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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It's not just Dodoro. It's the entire pro-essendon media.

This from Jon Ralph on twitter:

"A glass half full way of looking at it for Essendon fans if Daniher joins Saad in leaving. You play hard ball and demand pick 7 or he's not leaving. You get a first-round compo pick for Daniher. You end up with picks 6, 7 and 8, which will only be shuffled back a pick or two"

[mjp]

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We can poke all the fun at Dodoro we want, but he is RIGHT.

Saad is NOT a free-agent.

Essendon gave up significant capital to attract him - and, based on his comments at the time, made a reasonable commitment to his family etc to support him as an Islamic player participating in elite level sport. I don't know what Carlton's first pick is, but Essendon should be asking for it.

I am a bit scorched earth when it comes to this I know but the rules are there to support the clubs AND the players...not just the Players. Saad is NOT a free-agent...if he wants to nominate his club, then that club needs to be prepared to deal. And if I was Essendon, I would be saying the Carlton (and Adam Saad) that I understand his point of view, but he is a required player and it is their first round pick AS IT STANDS TODAY (no trading down to pick 18 and saying "This is our first round pick") or he is an Essendon player...and if he wants to sit out of footy for 12-months, fine, we can revisit the conversation in 12-months time...enjoy your job doing whatever the heck it is you do when you aren't playing footy.

If Saad genuinely wants to leave Essendon, then Essendon should have the opportunity to find a deal for him - a suitable financial / geographical deal for Adam with suitable compensation for Bombers. They shouldn't be restricted to dealing with one club because of a player who has been in discussions with rival clubs whilst under contract. It is rubbish.