2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18326

    Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    Love your work in this thread RS.
    Yeah RS does some great stuff.
    "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5721

      Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

      Originally posted by Eastdog
      I won’t lie I wish we could have built a dynasty from our 2016 success and made a bit of history. It just wasn’t to be.
      16 of the Tigers playing tonight played in their 2017 flag.

      Out: Butler (trade), Caddy (omitted, played 2019), Ellis (FA, played 2019), Grigg (retired), Rance (retired), Townsend (traded)
      In: Baker, Bolton, Balta, Pickett, Lynch, Short

      For comparison we only have 10 of our 2016 premiership players still on our list - 7 retirements (5 of them 'early'), 4 trades/FA and one delisting.

      I'm not sure of my point, but it's definitely interesting.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18093

        Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

        Those 2020 ins vs 2017 are huge upgrades. Richmond are going to be a force for years to come.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 19112

          Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

          Originally posted by comrade
          Those 2020 ins vs 2017 are huge upgrades. Richmond are going to be a force for years to come.
          They are better now for sure. In the age of equalisation it's amazing there can be an outlier of this magnitude. Really it was just one bad game from 4 on the trot. I think off field spend must have something to do with it. An incredible run with injuries too. Oh and that Martin guy.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18093

            Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

            Anyone got any decent screenshots of Danger post match. In the mood for some Sunday morning schadenfreude.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15419

              Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

              The amazing thing with Richmond is really only Tom Lynch is a high profile recruit or trade from another club and to a lesser degree Dion Prestia (albeit just as important to their set up). Other players from other clubs are low TRUE MONEY BALL TRADES. Nankervis and Houli.

              They win the hard way. They win different ways. This year they lost week one and last night were totally outplayed in the first half.

              Last year the were jumped by Geelong in the prelim and then went on to play scintillating football for six quarters and the rest is history.
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 19112

                Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                Originally posted by azabob
                The amazing thing with Richmond is really only Tom Lynch is a high profile recruit or trade from another club and to a lesser degree Dion Prestia (albeit just as important to their set up). Other players from other clubs are low TRUE MONEY BALL TRADES. Nankervis and Houli.

                They win the hard way. They win different ways. This year they lost week one and last night were totally outplayed in the first half.

                Last year the were jumped by Geelong in the prelim and then went on to play scintillating football for six quarters and the rest is history.
                So true. I went through their list during the week and it's all pretty much amazing work at the draft table. Caddy is another they traded for but he can't even get a gig now. Liam Baker for example was over looked by everyone and rookie drafted by the Tigers, Bolton was a mid second rounder in 2016
                (29) as was Balta who was their second pick (25) after the 2017 flag. That pick went from GWS to Essendon as part of the Devon Smith trade, then to Dogs as part of Stringer deal, then to Lions for Schache, before finally ending up with the Tigers who swapped 15 and 52 for 20 and 25.
                So we kind of swapped Balta for Schache. My recollection is the Tigers had some interest in Schache but cooled on him and I can only think they decided on Balta.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18093

                  Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  So true. I went through their list during the week and it's all pretty much amazing work at the draft table. Caddy is another they traded for but he can't even get a gig now. Liam Baker for example was over looked by everyone and rookie drafted by the Tigers, Bolton was a mid second rounder in 2016
                  (29) as was Balta who was their second pick (25) after the 2017 flag. That pick went from GWS to Essendon as part of the Devon Smith trade, then to Dogs as part of Stringer deal, then to Lions for Schache, before finally ending up with the Tigers who swapped 15 and 52 for 20 and 25.
                  So we kind of swapped Schache for Balta. My recollection is the Tigers had some interest in Schache but cooled on him and I can only think they decided on Balta.
                  I love Balta.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18093

                    Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    The amazing thing with Richmond is really only Tom Lynch is a high profile recruit or trade from another club and to a lesser degree Dion Prestia (albeit just as important to their set up). Other players from other clubs are low TRUE MONEY BALL TRADES. Nankervis and Houli.

                    They win the hard way. They win different ways. This year they lost week one and last night were totally outplayed in the first half.

                    Last year the were jumped by Geelong in the prelim and then went on to play scintillating football for six quarters and the rest is history.
                    Yep, none of that ‘we’ll know within the first 5 minutes if we’re a shot’ that the Bulldogs throw at you. Richmond fans go in every game knowing their side is a chance no matter what the circumstances are.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Rocket Science
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 4866

                      Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Anyone got any decent screenshots of Danger post match. In the mood for some Sunday morning schadenfreude.
                      Ahh Danger, even when he's hurtin' he knows where the cameras are.

                      BORDERLINE FLYING

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                      • Rocket Science
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4866

                        Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                        It's become such a time honoured tradition Geelong might like to give serious consideration to adapting this as their new logo.

                        BORDERLINE FLYING

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15419

                          Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                          I said it last night but it bares repeating Shai Bolton has seriously elevated his standing in the game in this finals series.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • DOG GOD
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 6595

                            Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            I said it last night but it bares repeating Shai Bolton has seriously elevated his standing in the game in this finals series.
                            I’m sure we were sniffing around Shai a few years ago...damn.
                            I will never see #16 the same!!

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6932

                              Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              I said it last night but it bares repeating Shai Bolton has seriously elevated his standing in the game in this finals series.
                              The kick into the goal square in the last quarter was genius.
                              Park that car
                              Drop that phone
                              Sleep on the floor
                              Dream about me

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10036

                                Re: 2020 Finals Footy - the Prelims and Grand Final Discussion

                                Originally posted by The Underdog
                                The kick into the goal square in the last quarter was genius.
                                And the little shimmy to make it happen oh my.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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