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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7363

    The Melbourne Narrative

    Just getting a little weary of all the 'poor Melbourne', 'get behind Melbourne' narrative - yes, already.

    OK - so they haven't won a flag since 196-something. (I don't actually care).

    BUT:

    - The Melbourne supporters/members voted their own club out of existence during the Hawthorn merger phase. Don Scott didn't just save the Hawks - his refusal to accept the merger effectively saved Melbourne as well.

    - This is a club that ACTIVELY tried to lose games. They tried to lose. Sure, the AFL gave them a token fine, selected Chris Connolly and Dean Bailey as the 'fall guys' and swept it under the carpet...but they tanked, they cheated, they brought disgrace on themselves AND the competition.

    People should not feel sorry for Melbourne. In short, they deserve EVERYTHING they get. Those 'poor supporters'? Yeah - they voted to fold their club. A club that initiated a policy of losing ON PURPOSE in order to manipulate the draft.

    If there is any justice, they should have to wait another 50 years.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21814

    #2
    Re: The Melbourne Narrative

    Originally posted by mjp
    Just getting a little weary of all the 'poor Melbourne', 'get behind Melbourne' narrative - yes, already.

    OK - so they haven't won a flag since 196-something. (I don't actually care).

    BUT:

    - The Melbourne supporters/members voted their own club out of existence during the Hawthorn merger phase. Don Scott didn't just save the Hawks - his refusal to accept the merger effectively saved Melbourne as well.

    - This is a club that ACTIVELY tried to lose games. They tried to lose. Sure, the AFL gave them a token fine, selected Chris Connolly and Dean Bailey as the 'fall guys' and swept it under the carpet...but they tanked, they cheated, they brought disgrace on themselves AND the competition.

    People should not feel sorry for Melbourne. In short, they deserve EVERYTHING they get. Those 'poor supporters'? Yeah - they voted to fold their club. A club that initiated a policy of losing ON PURPOSE in order to manipulate the draft.

    If there is any justice, they should have to wait another 50 years.
    Absolutely agree.

    As much as I enjoyed spoiling the party last night I will enjoy breaking the hearts of Melbourne fans so much more.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: The Melbourne Narrative

      Whilst they’ve had virtually everything go their way this year. Virtually no injuries, and rescheduled games going in their favour. Haven’t even been tested in the finals series.

      While we have been fighting serious injuries to gun players all year, playing nearly everyone on the list, and had to travel all over this country. We’ve had the acid on us the last three weeks and proved we are fighters.

      But yeah, the narrative is set so the contrast will get lost. The next 13 days will be this. The commentary will be it too.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66687

        #4
        Re: The Melbourne Narrative

        I am happy for them to be the favourites, sentimental or otherwise. Nice to go in underdogs.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10139

          #5
          Re: The Melbourne Narrative

          I really, really do not like the Dees. You only need to go to one of their games in the MCC and if you don’t feel the same already you will afterwards.

          Capo dog alt right elitist pig shit scum sucking fasho wankers the lot of them.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • angelopetraglia
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6838

            #6
            Re: The Melbourne Narrative

            Melbourne represents the establishment. Old money, privilege and entitlement. The Bulldogs represent the opposite. The working class, the battlers, those who are not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I don't know how you build a narrative that is "poor old Melbourne".

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7697

              #7
              Re: The Melbourne Narrative

              Entitled lot that had everything handed to them vs battlers who were made to fight for a walk and a training session. We’re playing off in the biggest game of the year. Even not knowing who is who, I know who I would back and put my hard earned on. Here’s hoping it pans out that way.

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21814

                #8
                Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                Melbourne represents the establishment. Old money, privilege and entitlement. The Bulldogs represent the opposite. The working class, the battlers, those who are not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I don't know how you build a narrative that is "poor old Melbourne".
                It's funny how the establishment manages to do this all the time! Over and over again.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15301

                  #9
                  Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  Melbourne represents the establishment. Old money, privilege and entitlement. The Bulldogs represent the opposite. The working class, the battlers, those who are not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I don't know how you build a narrative that is "poor old Melbourne".
                  Comedian Dave Thornton

                  AFL 2021 Grand Final
                  Teams: Melbourne v Doggies
                  Supporters: Landlords v Tenants

                  Either way someone's not getting their bond back
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6838

                    #10
                    Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    It's funny how the establishment manages to do this all the time! Over and over again.
                    Melbourne (also like Carlton) had every advantage in the world. Wealth, supporters, prestige. Both clubs from a position on top of the world shot themselves in the foot via mainly hubris. Never recovered from sacking Norm Smith. He led them to six Premierships in 10 years and they sacked him. They sacked him the year after they won the flag. They didn't play in another final after that until 1987 (under Smith they played in 11 consecutive final series).

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10152

                      #11
                      Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                      It’s a good set of points. You’ve convinced me mjp, we simply have to win in 2 weeks time!
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • EasternWest
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10002

                        #12
                        Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                        I hate Tories, so naturally I hate Melbourne.

                        We're going to win.
                        "It's over. It's all over."

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27654

                          #13
                          Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          Just getting a little weary of all the 'poor Melbourne', 'get behind Melbourne' narrative - yes, already.

                          OK - so they haven't won a flag since 196-something. (I don't actually care).

                          BUT:

                          - The Melbourne supporters/members voted their own club out of existence during the Hawthorn merger phase. Don Scott didn't just save the Hawks - his refusal to accept the merger effectively saved Melbourne as well.

                          - This is a club that ACTIVELY tried to lose games. They tried to lose. Sure, the AFL gave them a token fine, selected Chris Connolly and Dean Bailey as the 'fall guys' and swept it under the carpet...but they tanked, they cheated, they brought disgrace on themselves AND the competition.

                          People should not feel sorry for Melbourne. In short, they deserve EVERYTHING they get. Those 'poor supporters'? Yeah - they voted to fold their club. A club that initiated a policy of losing ON PURPOSE in order to manipulate the draft.

                          If there is any justice, they should have to wait another 50 years.
                          Don't forget they were provided with a coach and a CEO/administrative staff and draft choices they weren't strictly entitled to because apparently we couldn't have the club that carried the Melbourne name face up to the consequences of their own ineptitude.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11243

                            #14
                            Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                            Their coach also "got on the good gear" from Stephen Dank during the Essendon doping scandal. How he has managed to skate out of that is one of the more notable Teflon-coated performances in recent memory.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: The Melbourne Narrative

                              Expect blood discharge from your ears with Roos no doubt doing the rounds. BMac can take credit for whichever contested midfield wins too.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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