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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44621

    Champion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

    CD regards these players elite as we head into the 2022 season

    There are surprises aplenty in Champion Data’s list of elite players heading into the 2022 season.

    Several big names failed to make the list including reigning Brownlow Medallist Ollie Wines, Carlton star Sam Walsh, St Kilda skipper Jack Steele, Melbourne premiership captain Max Gawn and Geelong gun Patrick Dangerfield.

    Four All-Australians were also not rated in the elite category – Demons defender Steven May, Essendon ball-magnet Zach Merrett, Sydney forward Tom Papley and Carlton spearhead Harry McKay.

    Brownlow Medallist Gerard Healy is in complete agreement with Champion Data’s assessment of McKay – last year’s Coleman Medallist.

    “I couldn’t agree more with Champion Data on this,” Healy told Sportsday.

    “I think Harry McKay is a long way from being elite. He has got miles to improve in many aspects of the game.

    “If you want to be an elite player, you have to be good in all facets of the game and probably have something that you’re nearly the best at.

    “He’s elite in accuracy, but he’s not elite in winning the ball.”

    The Western Bulldogs have seven players in the elite bracket – the most of any club – while reigning premiers Melbourne have just three.

    To be classified as elite by Champion Data, you must have played at least 10 games and rank in the top 10 per cent of your position.

    Adelaide (3)

    Elite: Jordan Dawson (general defender), Taylor Walker (key forward), Paul Seedsman (wing)

    Brisbane Lions (5)


    Elite: Daniel Rich (general defender), Lincoln McCarthy (general forward), Harris Andrews (key defender), Dayne Zorko (midfielder), Hugh McCluggage (wing)

    Carlton (3)


    Elite: Adam Saad (general defender), Zac Williams (general defender), Jacob Weitering (key defender)

    Collingwood (4)


    Elite: Jack Crisp (general defender), Jamie Elliott (general forward), Darcy Moore (key defender), Brodie Grundy (ruck)

    Essendon (3)


    Elite: Nick Hind (general defender), Darcy Parish (midfielder), Jake Stringer (mid-forward)

    Fremantle (2)


    Elite: Sam Switkowski (general forward), Sean Darcy (ruck)

    Geelong Cats (3)

    Elite: Tom Stewart (general defender), Tom Hawkins (key forward), Sam Menegola (wing)

    Gold Coast Suns (1)

    Elite: Touk Miller (midfielder)

    GWS Giants (1)

    Elite: Toby Greene (general forward)

    Hawthorn (4)

    Elite: Jack Scrimshaw (general defender), Luke Breust (general defender), Dylan Moore (general forward), Chad Wingard (mid-forward)

    Melbourne (3)

    Elite: Jake Lever (key defender), Clayton Oliver (midfielder), Christian Petracca (midfielder)

    North Melbourne (1)

    Elite: Aaron Hall (general defender)

    Port Adelaide (6)

    Elite: Zak Butters (general forward), Robbie Gray (general forward), Aliir Aliir (key defender), Jeremy Finlayson (key forward), Charlie Dixon (key forward), Karl Amon (wing)

    Richmond (1)

    Elite: Dustin Martin (mid-forward)

    St Kilda (1)

    Elite: Jack Sinclair (general defender)

    Sydney Swans (3)

    Elite: Isaac Heeney (general forward), Lance Franklin (key forward), Tom Hickey (ruck)

    West Coast Eagles (2)

    Elite: Liam Ryan (general forward), Nic Naitanui (ruck)

    Western Bulldogs (7)

    Elite: Bailey Dale (general defender), Caleb Daniel (general defender), Marcus Bontempelli (midfielder), Tom Liberatore (midfielder), Jack Macrae (midfielder), Adam Treloar (mid-forward), Bailey Smith (wing)
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18957

    #2
    Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

    Jeremy Finlayson?

    Elite knob head.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5640

      #3
      Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

      Gerard says "I think Harry McKay is a long way from being elite. He has got miles to improve in many aspects of the game. If you want to be an elite player, you have to be good in all facets of the game and probably have something that you’re nearly the best at."

      I reckon he's got a fair claim to being the best at kicking goals...certainly a claim over Jeremy Finlayson!!

      Interesting that the top 10% of key defenders is only 4 players - Moore, Weitering, Harris Andrews and Aliir Aliir. Interesting in the view of our player polls - e.g. I voted for Keath as elite but he is right on the edge of that group with Steven May.

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5844

        #4
        Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

        7 for us, highest of any club, only 3 at Melbourne
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • josie
          Coaching Staff
          • Oct 2012
          • 4480

          #5
          Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

          No Gawn?
          Josie :)

          Our day will come
          And we'll have everything.
          We'll share the joy
          Just like '54 again.

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          • FrediKanoute
            Coaching Staff
            • Aug 2007
            • 3826

            #6
            Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

            Originally posted by boydogs
            7 for us, highest of any club, only 3 at Melbourne
            That suggests that our Premiership window is wide open! We have to make the most of it in 2022.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18027

              #7
              Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

              Bit stiff, where’s Naughts and Keath…
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10152

                #8
                Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                Originally posted by josie
                No Gawn?
                Yes, glaring omission - played some incredible football in big games and seemed to do a lot of the stuff CD rate (goals, contest marks, contested ball)
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18027

                  #9
                  Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                  Yeah, if Gawn isn’t considered elite by CD’s criteria, then the criteria is completely stuffed.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44621

                    #10
                    Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                    I get that it's largely a stats based assessment and a different way of looking at players but Oliie Wines and Jack Steele would be regarded by most as elite.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5564

                      #11
                      Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                      It is hard to imagine any statistical analysis that rates Jeremy Finlayson as elite and doesn't recognise Max Gawn.

                      There would only be about 20 players at every club that I would pick before Jeremy Finlayson.

                      I know Finlayson is an elite kick, but it is not Grid Iron skills that we should be assessing.
                      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15301

                        #12
                        Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Bit stiff, where’s Naughts and Keath…
                        Naughton is anything but elite in performing the most critical part of his job.
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14944

                          #13
                          Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                          No Stephen May either.
                          Jack Sinclair makes the cut for the saints but no Jack Steele.

                          This list serves as a cautionary tale on the dangers of relying solely on stats to judge a players' value.

                          I'd hate to think where Champion Data ranked Dale "2nd in the B&F in a Premiership year" Morris.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14944

                            #14
                            Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            Naughton is anything but elite in performing the most critical part of his job.
                            The no 1 contested marking player in the competition?
                            Most coaches would consider him a danger. By my count only 3 of the forwards listed above get the no 1 defender every week.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18957

                              #15
                              Re: Campion Data's Elite Ratings 2022

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              No Stephen May either.
                              Jack Sinclair makes the cut for the saints but no Jack Steele.

                              This list serves as a cautionary tale on the dangers of relying solely on stats to judge a players' value.

                              I'd hate to think where Champion Data ranked Dale "2nd in the B&F in a Premiership year" Morris.
                              All the clubs use their stats too.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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