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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5721

    #91
    Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

    I'm sure Petracca is being discussed in trade thread but let's talk about the Dees as an organisation...I've got questions!

    Does Max still think there are no cultural issues?
    Why hasn't Goodwin been sacked yet?
    How many years until they win a 'real premiership at the MCG in front of their fans'?

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5615

      #92
      Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      I'm sure Petracca is being discussed in trade thread but let's talk about the Dees as an organisation...I've got questions!

      Does Max still think there are no cultural issues?
      Why hasn't Goodwin been sacked yet?
      How many years until they win a 'real premiership at the MCG in front of their fans'?
      Maybe Max is the cultural issue
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • angelopetraglia
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6902

        #93
        Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

        The below is an excerpt form an article that Sam Landsberger wrote in 2000. Some of those issues that were highlighted in this piece are starting to rear their head now. Interesting obversation on X from Daniel Cherny.


        **************
        Red flags emerged on Petracca.

        Former Saints list manager Ameet Bains and recruiter Tony Elshaug started to question whether Petracca would fit their environment.

        Why did the psych test reveal an eagerness for Petracca to promote himself ahead of teammates? Were there selfish traits?

        Did his antics at the 3km time-trial ? ensuring everybody knew he was sore ? highlight immaturity? A lack of mental strength?

        How come he completed extra training in isolation instead of with teammates?

        Petracca seemed to enjoy attention. Would his personality blend in at St Kilda?

        ?We take the view that the character assessment is critical,? Bains said at the time.

        ?And with pick one you go to deeper lengths in terms of the people you speak to, in terms of ensuring cross references as you see it, psychologist?s reports, personality reports, interviews, speaking to whoever you think might be relevant.?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #94
          Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

          So Bains isn’t after Trac then.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 7912

            #95
            Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

            Originally posted by angelopetraglia
            The below is an excerpt form an article that Sam Landsberger wrote in 2000. Some of those issues that were highlighted in this piece are starting to rear their head now. Interesting obversation on X from Daniel Cherny.


            **************
            Red flags emerged on Petracca.

            Former Saints list manager Ameet Bains and recruiter Tony Elshaug started to question whether Petracca would fit their environment.

            Why did the psych test reveal an eagerness for Petracca to promote himself ahead of teammates? Were there selfish traits?

            Did his antics at the 3km time-trial ? ensuring everybody knew he was sore ? highlight immaturity? A lack of mental strength?

            How come he completed extra training in isolation instead of with teammates?

            Petracca seemed to enjoy attention. Would his personality blend in at St Kilda?

            ?We take the view that the character assessment is critical,? Bains said at the time.

            ?And with pick one you go to deeper lengths in terms of the people you speak to, in terms of ensuring cross references as you see it, psychologist?s reports, personality reports, interviews, speaking to whoever you think might be relevant.?
            Wow Bains must have an eagle eye if he scouted Petracca when he was 4!

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7912

              #96
              Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

              Originally posted by angelopetraglia
              The below is an excerpt form an article that Sam Landsberger wrote in 2000. Some of those issues that were highlighted in this piece are starting to rear their head now. Interesting obversation on X from Daniel Cherny.


              **************
              Red flags emerged on Petracca.

              Former Saints list manager Ameet Bains and recruiter Tony Elshaug started to question whether Petracca would fit their environment.

              Why did the psych test reveal an eagerness for Petracca to promote himself ahead of teammates? Were there selfish traits?

              Did his antics at the 3km time-trial ? ensuring everybody knew he was sore ? highlight immaturity? A lack of mental strength?

              How come he completed extra training in isolation instead of with teammates?

              Petracca seemed to enjoy attention. Would his personality blend in at St Kilda?

              ?We take the view that the character assessment is critical,? Bains said at the time.

              ?And with pick one you go to deeper lengths in terms of the people you speak to, in terms of ensuring cross references as you see it, psychologist?s reports, personality reports, interviews, speaking to whoever you think might be relevant.?
              Petracca must get those qualities from his self proclaimed best friend Ben Simmons.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6902

                #97
                Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                Apologies.

                Sam Landsberger wrote the article in 2020.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18093

                  #98
                  Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                  To a lesser extent, we've been through all this with Dunkley. Both love the socials, and both love the US sports machine with all the player movement that goes on.

                  Both scenarios involved whispers around professionalism and they also both happened to play with Lachie Hunter, but perhaps that's just a coincidence...
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6902

                    #99
                    Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                    I thought the Baz stuff was bad at the Dogs. Petracca and Melbourne, hold my beer. This story has just gone nuclear in the 48 hours.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21991

                      Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                      Apologies.

                      Sam Landsberger wrote the article in 2020.
                      Sorry mate, you can't take it back. You've had it in for a toddler all this time.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21991

                        Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        To a lesser extent, we've been through all this with Dunkley. Both love the socials, and both love the US sports machine with all the player movement that goes on.

                        Both scenarios involved whispers around professionalism and they also both happened to play with Lachie Hunter, but perhaps that's just a coincidence...
                        Both players have a penchant for authentic blandness as well. I saw on a cooking advert Petracca put red wine into a Bolognese after the tomatoes. Now I could understand doing so after the tomato paste, just, but after the tomatoes is just pure simple bullshit.

                        One of my favourite quotes on WOOF was when HD referred to Dunkley as a Netflix menu enjoyer. He and Petracca are peas in a pod.
                        Last edited by jeemak; 27-08-2024, 09:43 PM.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21991

                          Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                          And I appreciate how my comments above may seem superfluous, but if you just dig a bit deeper into who these people are, you realise a bit about them.

                          If Petracca, who if I'm not mistaken occasionally promotes his Italianism can't at least pay enough attention to detail on how to make an authentic Bolognese, then how much authentic character does he really have within him? Not much. Cheaping out on heritage for a buck.

                          You have to let the alcohol burn off FFS. I'm contacting Vincenzo's Plate right now to let him rage on about this.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • bulldogsthru&thru
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • May 2011
                            • 7912

                            Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            And I appreciate how my comments above may seem superfluous, but if you just dig a bit deeper into who these people are, you realise a bit about them.

                            If Petracca, who if I'm not mistaken occasionally promotes his Italianism can't at least pay enough attention to detail on how to make an authentic Bolognese, then how much authentic character does he really have within him? Not much. Cheaping out on heritage for a buck.

                            You have to let the alcohol burn off FFS. I'm contacting Vincenzo's Plate right now to let him rage on about this.
                            Mate if he hung out in circles with Ben Simmons it tells you all you need to know.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19103

                              Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              And I appreciate how my comments above may seem superfluous, but if you just dig a bit deeper into who these people are, you realise a bit about them.

                              If Petracca, who if I'm not mistaken occasionally promotes his Italianism can't at least pay enough attention to detail on how to make an authentic Bolognese, then how much authentic character does he really have within him? Not much. Cheaping out on heritage for a buck.

                              You have to let the alcohol burn off FFS. I'm contacting Vincenzo's Plate right now to let him rage on about this.
                              He doesn't even get constipated when he eats crostoli.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21991

                                Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                He doesn't even get constipated when he eats crostoli.
                                Yeah, but I still reckon he goes to the Leggos shop to make it.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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