Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11486

    #1

    Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

    Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

    The AFL has made a major shift in player trading this year, officially allowing clubs to “salary dump”, or trade out players on big contracts for minimal draft return.

    Such deals would previously have been blocked by the AFL. The change will allow clubs to more easily get a player’s contract off their books to ease the strain on their salary caps.

    The AFL is in the process of informing all clubs of the change in policy which will see clubs able to trade out players on large contracts for minimal draft pick return as long as the other clubs takes over the player’s contract.

    Clubs also have the option to do things like bundling an attractive early draft pick with a highly paid player in a trade for just a lowly pick as a way of getting the player’s salary off the books.

    As one AFL club recruiter put it: there would barely be an AFL club that isn’t paying a portion of the salary of a former player to play at another club.

    Collingwood orchestrated the most famous salary dump under existing AFL rules, in the trade period fire sale at the end of 2020 that saw senior player Adam Treloar traded to the Western Bulldogs for a relatively insufficient draft pick and Collingwood contributing a portion of his salary, and Jaidyn Stephenson traded to North.

    The change will allow clubs with a large amount of salary cap space but few draft picks - North Melbourne this year, for example - to use their salary cap space as a tool to effectively buy themselves a draft pick. That is, to get a good draft pick you have to take the expensive player.

    The AFL would previously have seen this as an unfair trade and blocked it, but now recognise the value to clubs in getting a player’s salary off the books.

    The AFL’s changes acknowledge that how clubs manage their salary cap is as important to their chances of success on the field as trading in players or getting high draft picks.

    The effect will be that clubs will have greater flexibility to trade players who are on big contracts and not forced to take years to try to address salary cap problems.

    Gold Coast has midfielder Brayden Fiorini on a significant contract next year, but he has been squeezed out of the Suns’ young and talented midfield. He has had discussions with several clubs, including Collingwood, about a move and could be available in exchange for an insignificant draft pick, provided the recipient club takes over his contract.

    Players are often eager to leave clubs once they find themselves out of favour in a developing team or once new players come in and are preferred ahead of them - Tom Mitchell at Hawthorn for instance - but find the options to move blocked because clubs will not give up quality picks to get players on big money deals.

    In these cases, the new club would most likely renegotiate new contract terms for the player, spreading the contract payment out over a longer period.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45508

    #2
    Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

    Massive change at late notice. Does the AFL feel they need to get this done for a couple of the teams?
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11486

      #3
      Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Massive change at late notice. Does the AFL feel they need to get this done for a couple of the teams?
      Perhaps trying to give North some additional assistance, although it will probably benefit the clubs doing the salary dump more.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

        If one assumes JJ (previously on $500k) & Dunkley (rumours $650,000 offered to him) go, plus Lobb is refused to trade (say a restructured deal to $500k no longer needed), plus others on ok money (Schache, Martin) also go.

        That could mean we are sitting on a huge mountain of cash.

        I still love you Gil.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11486

          #5
          Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          If one assumes JJ (previously on $500k) & Dunkley (rumours $650,000 offered to him) go, plus Lobb is refused to trade (say a restructured deal to $500k no longer needed), plus others on ok money (Schache, Martin) also go.

          That could mean we are sitting on a huge mountain of cash.

          I still love you Gil.
          It's seeming more likely that JJ stays BT (on a reduced deal) as the interest party in Gold Coast convinced Ben Long to request a trade instead.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #6
            Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            It's seeming more likely that JJ stays BT (on a reduced deal) as the interest party in Gold Coast convinced Ben Long to request a trade instead.
            Even still, if we have a huge space in our cap this year, the timing of this change offers Sam Power some new trade opportunities.

            Strange timing though as Gary says.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45508

              #7
              Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              If one assumes JJ (previously on $500k) & Dunkley (rumours $650,000 offered to him) go, plus Lobb is refused to trade (say a restructured deal to $500k no longer needed), plus others on ok money (Schache, Martin) also go.

              That could mean we are sitting on a huge mountain of cash.

              I still love you Gil.
              We could certainly be cashed up but it also provides an opportunity to restructure some contracts so that we have cap space going forward. With the new salary cap dumping options clubs will be able to trade contracted players that much easier.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #8
                Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                We could certainly be cashed up but it also provides an opportunity to restructure some contracts so that we have cap space going forward. With the new salary cap dumping options clubs will be able to trade contracted players that much easier.
                Who’s currently under the pump? I assume Collingwood & GCS are looking at this.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15479

                  #9
                  Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Who’s currently under the pump? I assume Collingwood & GCS are looking at this.
                  GWS also are under massive pressure.

                  Carlton also might be under the pump with a few players coming out of contract next year.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7483

                    #10
                    Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Who’s currently under the pump? I assume Collingwood & GCS are looking at this.
                    Freo have some salary cap issues, North and I think maybe GWS have a lot of space.

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7483

                      #11
                      Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      GWS also are under massive pressure.

                      Carlton also might be under the pump with a few players coming out of contract next year.
                      GWS under pressure? They lose players every 2 months

                      Thats a big surprise to me.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45508

                        #12
                        Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Who’s currently under the pump? I assume Collingwood & GCS are looking at this.
                        It opens up opportunities for a lot of the strong clubs to either clear the decks or bring in some talent without impacting the cap.

                        Not sure who it might assist the most but Geelong, Collingwood and GWS might have the levers to exploit this.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7483

                          #13
                          Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          It opens up opportunities for a lot of the strong clubs to either clear the decks or bring in some talent without impacting the cap.

                          Not sure who it might assist the most but Geelong, Collingwood and GWS might have the levers to exploit this.
                          It opens up opportunities for clubs all round. Could completely change what Grundy is worth immediately as he has a really bad contract.

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11486

                            #14
                            Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            GWS also are under massive pressure.

                            Carlton also might be under the pump with a few players coming out of contract next year.
                            There was some talk Carlton could look to offload Zac Williams.

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                            • EasternWest
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10119

                              #15
                              Re: Clubs allowed to ‘salary dump’ in a major change to AFL trade rules

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              If one assumes JJ (previously on $500k) & Dunkley (rumours $650,000 offered to him) go, plus Lobb is refused to trade (say a restructured deal to $500k no longer needed), plus others on ok money (Schache, Martin) also go.

                              That could mean we are sitting on a huge mountain of cash.

                              I still love you Gil.
                              I love you man.

                              It feels like everything is back to normal with you here and your insights.

                              Edit: oh and Rocket Science and the photoshops. We're getting the band back together.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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