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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

    Decent (or well known player) trades out by GCS and GWS to existing clubs (not the full exhaustive list and not pick trades):


    Richmond: Morris, Townsend, Prestia, Tom Lynch, Taranto, Hopper*

    Geelong: Josh Caddy, Zac Smith, Gary Ablett, Jeremy Cameron, Bruhn, Bowes (with pick 7)

    Collingwood: Andrew Krakouer, Ceglar, Jamie Elliott, Adam Treloar, Hoskin-Elliott, Bobby Hill, Adams

    Fremantle: Mzungu, Bennell, Cam McCarthy, Nathan Wilson, Brandon Matera, Rory Lobb, Will Brodie, Corbett

    Hawthorn: O'Rourke, O'Meara, Scrimshaw, Patton, Scully

    St Kilda: Saad, Tom Lee, Tom Hickey, Josh Bruce, Jack Steele

    Port Adelaide: Hombsch, Neade, Charlie Dixon, Finlayson

    Melbourne: Dom Tyson, Sam Frost, Tom Bugg, May, K Kolo, Tomlinson

    Essendon: Stewart, Devon Smith, Shiel, Saad, Peter Wright, Caldwell

    Adelaide: Luke Brown, Hampton, Rankine

    Carlton: Jaksch, Lamb, Phillips, Plowman, Sumner, Marchbank, Palmer, Jarrod Pickett, Matt Kennedy, Setterfield, Zac Williams

    North: Ahern, Aaron Hall, Bonar, Corr

    Brisbane: Lyons, Callum Ah Chee, Zorko

    West Coast: Langdon

    Western Bulldogs: Tom Boyd (retalitory strike for Griffen walking out as captain)

    GCS: N/A

    GWS: N/A












    * (Sam Darley and his 7 games don't count)
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 11-10-2022, 10:06 PM.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • angelopetraglia
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6685

    #2
    Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

    It hasn't really helped Carlton

    Richmond a huge beneficiary.

    The Dogs now have Treloar.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      #3
      Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      It hasn't really helped Carlton

      Richmond a huge beneficiary.

      The Dogs now have Treloar.
      And Bruce. It’s seems quirky that we are the easily lowest volume trader with them. If not for Griffen, there’s no Boyd either. I can’t quite understand why.

      The bigger clubs have done really well. Yah for strong clubs getting stronger.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15125

        #4
        Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

        It is actually a pretty underwhelming list to be honest.
        I’m quite surprised by it.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #5
          Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

          Originally posted by azabob
          It is actually a pretty underwhelming list to be honest.
          I’m quite surprised by it.

          B: Mzungu May Bruce (was KPD then) / Tomlinson with good knees
          HB: Wilson Marchbank Saad
          C: Taranto Treloar Shiel
          HF: Zorko Cameron Jamie Elliott
          F: Rankine Tom Lynch Dixon
          R: Lobb O’Meara Prestia
          I: Adams Ablett Tom Boyd Hopper
          E: Caddy Hopper Bruce/Tomlinson Hickey
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15125

            #6
            Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            B: Mzungu May Bruce (was KPD then)
            HB: Wilson Marchbank Saad
            C: Taranto Treloar Caddy
            HF: Zorko Tom Boyd Jamie Elliott
            F: Rankine Tom Lynch Cameron
            R: Zac Smith O’Meara Prestia
            I: Hopper Lobb Dixon Ablett Shiel
            Ah, I see the issue. Collingwood got Taylor Adams from GWS not Jamie Elliot.

            In all seriousness considering the number of high draft picks I expected the 22 to be stronger.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              #7
              Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

              Originally posted by azabob
              Ah, I see the issue. Collingwood got Taylor Adams from GWS not Jamie Elliot.

              In all seriousness considering the number of high draft picks I expected the 22 to be stronger.
              Elliott was actually pre-listed and traded. I will add in Adams.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65607

                #8
                Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                Richmond have done very well this trade period to bolster their midfield. On top of Taranto and Hopper they have Prestia, Dusty and Bolton.
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                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  #9
                  Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                  Richmond, Geelong, Melbourne, Essendon & Collingwood have done well

                  Carlton not so much, they got it in their heads that even the picks GWS reject must still be good given their high pick riches, but its the clubs that have poached established players that have done best
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    #10
                    Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Richmond have done very well this trade period to bolster their midfield. On top of Taranto and Hopper they have Prestia, Dusty and Bolton.
                    No quality draft picks as a consequence.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27648

                      #11
                      Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                      Add Lobb to the list.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10027

                        #12
                        Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                        Just noticed the Sam Darley mention at the top. I was excited when we got him because of how his kicking was spoken about on that other forum next door. He might have just about been pound for pound (leaving out like those Fijian guys or whatever) the worst kick we’ve ever had.

                        Apparently he’s a top 10 player in the world at NBA 2K though. I guess everyone really does have that one special thing.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          #13
                          Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Add Lobb to the list.
                          If you want to count indirect moves to us from GWS (through Aints, Pies & Freo), and between the two clubs:

                          GWS - Dogs

                          Ward - Tom Boyd
                          Griffen - Lobb
                          Reid - Bruce
                          Addison - Treloar
                          (List vacancy - Darley)

                          Marchbank - Macrae (Pick 6 with Griffen - compo pick for Ward) (Marchbank pick used on Deledio)
                          - Prudden (compo pick for Reid)


                          GWS from Collingwood:

                          Taranto & Kennedy (both trades out, picks 12 & 19 and pick used on Sam Taylor)

                          GWS from Freo:

                          Hately (quit to PSD), O’Halloran

                          GWS from Aints:

                          Passed on using the pick they got


                          From 2011 - Between the clubs activities directly and indirectly:

                          Now Dogs: Macrae, Lobb, Treloar, Bruce (Prelim win in 2016 and Premiership) (GF loss)
                          Now GWS: Ward, Taylor, O’Halloran, Pick 12 & 19 this year (2016 Prelim loss) (GF loss)
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27648

                            #14
                            Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                            That's a decent list of players we've got around and about from GWS.

                            I wonder how it is that we haven't managed to convince anyone to move from the Gold coast to sunny Footscray?
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21427

                              #15
                              Re: Which clubs have been winning from the expansion teams:

                              We won a flag partly due to expansion. So I reckon we're winners.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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