AFL Game Day R8 2023

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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11723

    #76
    Re: AFL Game Day R8 2023

    Originally posted by Mantis
    Averaging 15 touches & just under 1 goal a game.. that ain't awesome.

    I know Toby Greene is elite, but in terms of playing style (as well as natural ability & wage) he would be the most similar to him and he's averaging 18 & almost 3 goals a game.
    His best in terms of goals seems to be 2 a year and disposals best average was 20ish a while ago, seemingly as a back flanker.

    Neither shout superstar.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • JanLorMill
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2023
      • 1549

      #77
      Re: AFL Game Day R8 2023

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      Heeney is awesome. Love him at Dogs.
      Overated. Blonde and plays for the Swans.

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      • JanLorMill
        Senior Player
        • Feb 2023
        • 1549

        #78
        Re: AFL Game Day R8 2023

        Originally posted by mjp
        If he wanted to come and play for us I'd take him.
        Zero chance of that happening. From Sydney and their glamour boy, to come to Footscray?

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11046

          #79
          Re: AFL Game Day R8 2023

          Originally posted by jazzadogs
          I understand why people like him but I don't understand why he's not playing midfield. I think he consistently underperforms for his talent level. I concede that he was very good last year (49 goals in a grand final team), but objectively his worst three games were in their three finals.

          A comparison with another highly rated but underperforming permanent forward:
          Jake Stringer: 178 games, 302 goals, 2331 disposals (ave 13)
          Heeney: 162 games, 206 goals, 2382 disposals (ave 16)

          I just don't see Heeney standing up and being the point of difference when it counts. Undeniably talented, and better than our McNeill/Scott/Garcia/VDM rotation so of course we would take him, but if I was a Swans fan I'd be really disappointed in his output. Particularly on his juicy contract.
          I like Heeney as a player but he doesn't do anywhere near enough relative to his talent level, and certainly not relative to his pay grade. He should be a top 3 player for his club and top 15-20 in the comp but he's nowhere near it at the moment and hasn't been for a lot of his career (2022 is an outlier).

          The comparison with Stringer is instructive - Stringer has copped endless criticism over many years (not without justification), but he has a vastly superior and more consistent CV as a mid sized forward who can play bursts in the middle than Heeney, and he's done it on far less coin. He's also done it overweight a lot of the time and with the world's shittiest tatt.

          Greene is the rolled gold star in this demographic and he is so far ahead of Heeney across all metrics it is not funny.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18717

            #80
            Re: AFL Game Day R8 2023

            Originally posted by JanLorMill
            Zero chance of that happening. From Sydney and their glamour boy, to come to Footscray?
            Interesting to hear Toyd lamenting the drive over the West Gate in the latest pod.

            I reckon that's a common theme with players.
            BT COME BACK!​

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