Melbourne will be invincible in 2023, or maybe not

[ledge]

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The whole underachieving thing is very subjective but I will say their recruiters and off field team rarely miss, it would be a great job to have as a coach. Still I find it incredibly harsh on a coach when we say they have no forwards and it’s a great list in the same sentence.

It’s the same sentiment as Bevo has a top 4 list followed by comments that we have no defenders, no small forwards, no outside run, our ruckmen is timid, our mids are all one paced, the tall forwards don’t take marks and we have no wingers. It’s small margins for a coach and most lists have some gaping holes even in supporters eyes.

I believe we have a very good list too but it doesn’t automatically win games . It’s the structure and how you bring out the best in the players and that’s the coaches job .
We didn’t have a great list in 2016 but we won through the coaches instilling belief and using the players in the best way that suited the list .
Two ways a coach can go . Play a game plan to suit the list you have or build a list to suit your game plan.
Melbourne’s forward line is extremely talented but they have wasted shots on goal and the delivery into it them had been shocking ( sound familiar )
Us and Melbourne under achieved for the same reason and it’s not the talent that is the problem it’s the way the coaches don’t connect from mid to forward .
Both teams forwards run into each other . Geelongs two big forwards don’t .

[macca]

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Glad melbourne lost . They have wasted another year with the list they have. They are crying out for a big strong ANGRY forward, Schache 2024 is your year.

[G-Mo77]

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I still don't understand the Schache Sub thing ... it doesn't make sense. He's not a player with great versatility. Can't play back or in the guts. And then don't even use him??

My guess is that Gawn was close to missing and would have came on if he went down? Seriously it's the only thing I can come up with. McDonald absolutely doing nothing you'd think Schache would have came on

[GVGjr]

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Grundy and his manager were extremely naive and deserve half the blame.

A strange decision no doubt but Melbourne must have been convincing in their sales pitch.

[GVGjr]

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What happened to Ben Brown?

Injuries really hampered him this year

[azabob]

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A strange decision no doubt but Melbourne must have been convincing in their sales pitch.

A couple of weekends ago I watched the afl trade doco on Stan. Grundy was a central figure in it. His arrogant management team jokingly said just imagine during finals Grundy is playing VFL.

What is even more damning is that Melbourne already tried and failed with the Gawn forward experiment when Braydon Pruess went from North to Melbourne with exactly the promise they gave Grundy.

[Grantysghost]

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How do we rate Burgess and his fitness program?

Since he went to Crows, Demons can't overwhelm for as long imo.

God we should throw the sink at him, although I think he's from SA so will be hard to pry him out.

[jazzadogs]

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I think they win if Grundy plays ahead of McDonald.

[Grantysghost]

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Btw Lachie Hunter somehow is now an elite kick.

[jazzadogs]

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Btw Lachie Hunter somehow is now an elite kick.

One of his best games in the last 2 or 3 years. He was excellent for them (and has been very good all year tbf).

[GVGjr]

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How do we rate Burgess and his fitness program?

Since he went to Crows, Demons can't overwhelm for as long imo.

God we should throw the sink at him, although I think he's from SA so will be hard to pry him out.

This year it started to become more evident to me that some teams had an edge on us in terms of fitness so we probably can't underestimate the importance of the head of fitness position at clubs. Dee's have slipped back to the field just a bit.

[jeemak]

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Btw Lachie Hunter somehow is now an elite kick.

One of his best games in the last 2 or 3 years. He was excellent for them (and has been very good all year tbf).

It's amazing what you can achieve when you knuckle down and feel you have to prove yourself.

What we need from all of our players is an urgency to keep proving themselves. They seem way too comfortable.

[GVGjr]

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It's amazing what you can achieve when you knuckle down and feel you have to prove yourself.

What we need from all of our players is an urgency to keep proving themselves. They seem way too comfortable.

Spot on, we need to put some players on notice so they don't take things for granted and become somewhat complacent.

[Grantysghost]

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One of his best games in the last 2 or 3 years. He was excellent for them (and has been very good all year tbf).

Yes had a great year. Been better than Langdon.

[Grantysghost]

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It's amazing what you can achieve when you knuckle down and feel you have to prove yourself.

What we need from all of our players is an urgency to keep proving themselves. They seem way too comfortable.

Competition for spots is a way to achieve this.

Problem is we were so borderline all year we couldn't or wouldn't take a risk with dropping bigger names.

Macrae for Khamis for eg.

It's one thing Rafa Benetiz believes in and it always stuck with me.

You have to create a culture where that's OK though, where success is evident through this method otherwise players will sad up and leave.