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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66082

    #46
    Re: Rule changes 2024

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    Don't recall anything about touch fouls changing mid season? There has been a change in the way the whistle has been blown on since the mid break though but I can't recall anything official.
    It was changed heading into 22/23 season, not mid season
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    • EasternWest
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 9993

      #47
      Re: Rule changes 2024

      Originally posted by Hotdog60
      Also while we're at it get rid of the below the knees bullshit which was a knee jerk (pun intended) to one or two cases in a million games of football.
      Dan Hanneberry says "wait, that's a rule?"
      "It's over. It's all over."

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18880

        #48
        Re: Rule changes 2024

        Originally posted by EasternWest
        Dan Hanneberry says "wait, that's a rule?"
        Every time he mentions it Bevo being shafted from lifting the cup plays in my head; then I smile, look contentedly into the distance, and smile.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7708

          #49
          Re: Rule changes 2024

          Originally posted by mjp
          I must be in the minority but I'm all for this - particularly the ones where a player has one arm pinned but not both...

          You have an arm free. KICK IT. If you can't, you're holding it.

          p.s. This also plays into the duty of care around a sling tackle. If the player being tackled has an arm free, they CAN protect themselves...let go of the ball and use your arm to help you. Naughton was in that situation last Friday night and he had an arm free...drop it and kick it...It will be holding the ball - but if your arm is free, you 100% can protect themselves. Been some interesting calls on that so far this year and the mandate on the tackler to be 'perfect' is currently too high.

          And all of the criticism of the AFL here about being reactive, didn't the NBA just do exactly the same thing around touch fouls etc? Seemed to help the game, not hinder it...
          The nba is very difficult to watch with touch fouls (only called for certain players btw).

          It's better than it was in the golden state and Curry days though where everything was a foul even contact initiated by the shooter. Defence has been eradicated from the game and its a horrible spectacle where any drive to the rim is called a foul.

          Today's game was a good example. Doncic getting calls for zero contact. Now the whole league is full of star players who do nothing but simulate and complain. The officiating has WAY too much influence on results so much so that everyone checks to see who is officiating games. Feels like the afl is going that way.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18880

            #50
            Re: Rule changes 2024

            Originally posted by bornadog
            The original intention was to stop players sliding in feet first (hello Goodes), which I agree with as it is dangerous. Some how it morphed into below the knees
            It was Thomas v Rohan broken leg from memory. Totally knee jerk.
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 5841

              #51
              Re: Rule changes 2024

              Feet first I can understand but the rule killed the likes of Cross who put their head over the footy.
              Don't piss off old people
              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5496

                #52
                Re: Rule changes 2024

                Originally posted by Hotdog60
                Feet first I can understand but the rule killed the likes of Cross who put their head over the footy.
                The interpretation of below the knees is just so wrong.

                Player bends over to pick up the ball and an opponent tries to get his boot to it, but wins a free for below the knees. That was kicking in danger.

                They really should only penalise players sliding in.

                The famous unpaid one in the GF was actually caused by Hannebery and didn't even contact him below the knee.
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • jazzadogs
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5569

                  #53
                  Re: Rule changes 2024

                  There is still way too much grey, and the umpires are being placed in an even more difficult position with more subjectivity.

                  Thinking of the dogs, how often will players like Bont and Bailey Williams be pinged when they are halfway through successfully breaking a tackle?

                  The quick whistle is good in theory but is potentially going to stifle ball players if any half decent tackle results in a htb free.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21577

                    #54
                    Re: Rule changes 2024

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    They change interpretations wildly on many different rules every week. I'm 100% convinced that this is a deliberate tactic by the AFEL to ensure the game is being talked about and takes up all the available media space. Media rule 101 - it's much worse to be ignored than to be hated.

                    The way this rule is umpired is completely broken. The clamp down is necessary but it will only last a few weeks and then it will be relaxed again when there is something else the AFEL have seeded to the media to talk about.
                    Man when I saw you posted in this thread I was hoping for a prior opportunity shit show argument.......
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21577

                      #55
                      Re: Rule changes 2024

                      Originally posted by mjp
                      I must be in the minority but I'm all for this - particularly the ones where a player has one arm pinned but not both...

                      You have an arm free. KICK IT. If you can't, you're holding it.

                      p.s. This also plays into the duty of care around a sling tackle. If the player being tackled has an arm free, they CAN protect themselves...let go of the ball and use your arm to help you. Naughton was in that situation last Friday night and he had an arm free...drop it and kick it...It will be holding the ball - but if your arm is free, you 100% can protect themselves. Been some interesting calls on that so far this year and the mandate on the tackler to be 'perfect' is currently too high.

                      And all of the criticism of the AFL here about being reactive, didn't the NBA just do exactly the same thing around touch fouls etc? Seemed to help the game, not hinder it...
                      I have no sympathy for players who hang onto the ball instead of protecting their heads, when one arm is pinned.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21577

                        #56
                        Re: Rule changes 2024

                        Tackling technique has improved more than any skill in the game over the last twenty or thirty years. The intent of prior opportunity is irrelevant now because of that fact.

                        If I was in charge:

                        - If a player runs through a tackle and it goes below the knees, it's a free for below the knees

                        - If a player moves his body or shrugs a tackle without lowering into it and it goes high, it's a free for too high

                        - If a player possesses the ball and has no immediate opportunity to dispose of it and it's held in, call a quick ball up without nominating

                        - If a player possesses the ball and does not immediately try to dispose of it when an opportunity was there to do so, ping them for holding the ball

                        - If a player possesses the ball and tries to dispose of it but it's an incorrect disposal, call incorrect disposal


                        The second one listed is a bit controversial, but I don't understand why the neck and head should be treated differently than the shins and feet. The rest are easy enough, just get on with it.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15206

                          #57
                          Re: Rule changes 2024

                          Just keeps getting more interesting?

                          Sam McClure joins Footy Classified to walk us through his exclusive story about umpires being coached in-game, without key figures across the league knowing, including some senior coaches.

                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5569

                            #58
                            Re: Rule changes 2024

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            Just keeps getting more interesting?

                            Sam McClure joins Footy Classified to walk us through his exclusive story about umpires being coached in-game, without key figures across the league knowing, including some senior coaches.

                            I'm not watching anything with McClure. Does he have any hard evidence of this happening? Or is this just another thought bubble based on rumour, like when "west coast are not going to pick" Harley Reid?

                            I heard BT talking about it on tv or radio last week as well, so it's clearly been making its way around media land.

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                            • jazzadogs
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5569

                              #59
                              Re: Rule changes 2024

                              If the frees against Sanders x2, Garcia x2 and Bramble are actually what the coaches and AFL want, then I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to watch the game. Atrocious.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21577

                                #60
                                Re: Rule changes 2024

                                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                                If the frees against Sanders x2, Garcia x2 and Bramble are actually what the coaches and AFL want, then I'm not sure how much longer I'll be able to watch the game. Atrocious.
                                Reckon I could live with it if that's just how it is and it's consistent. But then you get the Daicos non-call and all cred goes out the window and people want to wreck TVs.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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