Best Players Never to Win a Brownlow

[EasternWest]

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So close, but Bont has actually won two Brownlows.

I don't understand this but you're much smarter than me and so I accept it as truth.

[Happy Days]

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I don't understand this but you're much smarter than me and so I accept it as truth.

He actually won in 2021 and 2023, the AFL just gave them to other people in what’s becoming an increasingly mean spirited joke against Ollie Wines in particular.

[D Mitchell]

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Robbie Flower.

[Grantysghost]

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Robbie Flower.

Seconded boy he was a star

[GVGjr]

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Robbie Flower.

Wonderful player and he had a very successful sporting goods store. There were some brilliant wingers in his day as well.

[D Mitchell]

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Seconded boy he was a star

So smooth, had all the time in the world. Playing for 1970s Melbourne ruined his chances. I once attended a small social gathering, fewer than a dozen of us. There was one bloke big noting himself about how he knew a number of (unnamed) Essendon players offering to obtain autographs. Flower was among us, partner of a young lass. He could have destroyed the big noter, didn't say a word.

[Twodogs]

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Matthews was certainly a dirty player later in his career but was he all that dirty in the 70's at his peak? I missed his 70's imperial phase as a player - his stats throughout the 70's were pretty amazing for a rover/small forward.

Would you class Dipper and Lockett as cleanskins? Greg Williams as well?

Matthews was a thug from day one. He destroyed Barrie Robran's knee from behind in 1974 in a state game

Have a look at some of his he man acts. Punching blokes from behind, whacking them when they were watching the ball, clothes lining them when they were running past not expecting physical contact. They say he took it and handed it out but from what I saw he was a cowardly sniper. Giving him any award with "fairest" in the description would have been a sick joke

[Mofra]

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Bont was robbed last year.

Dare I say - Chris Grant? Twice?

West held the record for most Brownlow votes ever recorded by a Bulldog - did Bont overtake him?

[Prince Imperial]

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Bont was robbed last year.

Dare I say - Chris Grant? Twice?

West held the record for most Brownlow votes ever recorded by a Bulldog - did Bont overtake him?

West - 175
Bontempelli - 169

Dempsey received 176 votes playing for Footscray but adjusting for the 1976 and 1977 seasons when two umpires awarded votes, his vote count is 148.5.

Ware - 130
Whitten - 112
Liberatore - 112
Grant - 112
Schultz - 111
Boyd - 108
Macrae - 106

[Bornadog]

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He actually won in 2021 and 2023, the AFL just gave them to other people in what’s becoming an increasingly mean spirited joke against Ollie Wines in particular.

Neil winning was a joke

[jeemak]

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Matthews was a thug from day one. He destroyed Barrie Robran's knee from behind in 1974 in a state game

Have a look at some of his he man acts. Punching blokes from behind, whacking them when they were watching the ball, clothes lining them when they were running past not expecting physical contact. They say he took it and handed it out but from what I saw he was a cowardly sniper. Giving him any award with "fairest" in the description would have been a sick joke

A nasty arsehole given leeway because he was also an amazing footballer.

[Twodogs]

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A nasty arsehole given leeway because he was also an amazing footballer.

Yep. He was a great player, but an arsehole is the best description of him.

[Bornadog]

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A nasty arsehole given leeway because he was also an amazing footballer.

When you look at that footage, you can see what a thug he was. All unnecessary given he was a good player. Don't forget he was also charged by Police for what he did to Neville Bruns.

Yep. He was a great player, but an arsehole is the best description of him.

and still is.

[EasternWest]

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He actually won in 2021 and 2023, the AFL just gave them to other people in what’s becoming an increasingly mean spirited joke against Ollie Wines in particular.

Poor Lewis Taylor.

[Before I Die]

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Yep. He was a great player, but an arsehole is the best description of him.

Another vote for ARSEHOLE. The game was slower, but much more violent then. Matthews wasn't the only thug playing at that time, but he was a thug among thugs. Each time he entered the field of play it was with intent to maim someone.