Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10204

    #16
    Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

    Originally posted by SlimPickens
    This conversation seems very glass houses to me.
    The thing with glass houses is that you can see very clearly out of them.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7443

      #17
      Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

      I think this could be a dual thread...Port AND the Bulldogs are pretenders...Discuss.

      Anyone actually confident we can beat Hawthorn this week?
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • ReLoad
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2009
        • 1475

        #18
        Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

        This thread is about us right?

        Dont get me wrong, as others have posted above, yes we have won a flag, and were elbow deep in another granny, but surely they have to make a move on the coach?

        Change when done the right way for the right reasons is very powerful.

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        • Mitcha
          Draftee
          • Mar 2009
          • 741

          #19
          Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

          Stand by for the sound of silence from one Kane Cornes.

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10031

            #20
            Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

            Originally posted by mjp
            I think this could be a dual thread...Port AND the Bulldogs are pretenders...Discuss.

            Anyone actually confident we can beat Hawthorn this week?
            Of course we can. But that isn't the right question.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 19095

              #21
              Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              Of course we can. But that isn't the right question.
              Did we have any media scrutiny that would create a backs to the wall like attitude this week?

              (is that it?)
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10031

                #22
                Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Did we have any media scrutiny that would create a backs to the wall like attitude this week?

                (is that it?)
                No, it's simpler that that. Can we beat them? Of course. But will we?
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • whythelongface
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4550

                  #23
                  Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                  Originally posted by ReLoad
                  This thread is about us right?

                  Dont get me wrong, as others have posted above, yes we have won a flag, and were elbow deep in another granny, but surely they have to make a move on the coach?

                  Change when done the right way for the right reasons is very powerful.
                  It can be but it can also be an abject failure. Really comes down to personnel available at the time. There are many instances where change has had not the intended purpose and clubs have gone backwards (this is across all sports and not just AFL).

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19095

                    #24
                    Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    No, it's simpler that that. Can we beat them? Of course. But will we?
                    Ah yes
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3973

                      #25
                      Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      No, it's simpler that that. Can we beat them? Of course. But will we?
                      Their defence is undersized and can't handle our talls.
                      Our midfield is STACKED and theirs is still very raw and developing.
                      Their forward line is makeshift at best, and potentially the worst in the league (this week).
                      We have the AA ruckman.

                      So.... I anticipate us getting jumped early and prob being 3-4 goals down at half-time, and lose by a kick.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19095

                        #26
                        Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                        Originally posted by MrMahatma
                        Their defence is undersized and can't handle our talls.
                        Our midfield is STACKED and theirs is still very raw and developing.
                        Their forward line is makeshift at best, and potentially the worst in the league (this week).
                        We have the AA ruckman.

                        So.... I anticipate us getting jumped early and prob being 3-4 goals down at half-time, and lose by a kick.
                        Their midfield beat us up last time out.

                        Will Day back too.

                        At Marvel i expect at least we will be competitive and probably lose after the siren.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Scraggers
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3571

                          #27
                          Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                          Originally posted by ReLoad
                          This thread is about us right?

                          Dont get me wrong, as others have posted above, yes we have won a flag, and were elbow deep in another granny, but surely they have to make a move on the coach?

                          Change when done the right way for the right reasons is very powerful.
                          This thread is about the hypocrisy of the media.

                          I get the pressure that Bevo is under, and in some respects, rightly so. But the fact that there are teams like Port and Brisbane who get a free pass and have under-achieved more than we have (two grand final appearances in the last 8 years) really irks me. There was no way Cornes was going to let fly at Hinkley like he had Bevo. Hinkley’s game plan has more holes than my dungarees, but Hinkley gets a free ride. In fact, Damien Barrett lauded Hinkley in his excretion this morning. There is too much of a double standard that sees supporters like us split as to praising or lambasting Bevo and I’m sick of my team being the plaything of the media where they’re too lazy to actually be a journalist.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21983

                            #28
                            Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                            Port has an awesome home ground advantage (only share it with one team, narrow and long), so naturally they should be winning a lot of home games. Yes I understand they have to travel more than other sides, but it's not onerous travel like the WA teams have to put up with, but the Adelaide teams are the only teams able to reach all cities within three hours, and they now get an additional game with Gather Round.

                            So if they're in a good list position, which they clearly are presently, then they should be final eight competitive and depending on the fixture and how Adelaide is going at the time, should be able to bank some more wins than the teams that share Docklands and the MCG might expect when it comes to home games.

                            With that in mind they should be where they are now, 5-3. With their only two away games being at the MCG with a win against Richmond and a loss against Collingood, and their home wins against West Coast, Essendon, Dockers and Saint Kilda with a loss to Adelaide, it will be really interesting to see how they fare over the next phase of the season.

                            It's subjective but it looks like they have a pretty soft fixture coming up. If they can't maintain their position then they should come under a lot of pressure. If they can maintain their position but shit the bed in the finals then they need to be thinking about what's stopping them from being better.

                            Fixture:



                            But the media won't pile onto them. Koshie won't allow it and Hinkley speaks like a hick which is what the media want to hear.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #29
                              Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              I think this could be a dual thread...Port AND the Bulldogs are pretenders...Discuss.

                              Anyone actually confident we can beat Hawthorn this week?
                              Sigh… yep.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Scraggers
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3571

                                #30
                                Re: Port Adelaide - The Great Pretenders

                                Ken Hinkley is a quality human and a great role model for the greater football public. This doesn’t need to be said. And now he’s proven what a quality winner he is as well.

                                Or …

                                Hawthorn are sooks

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