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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44620

    Broadcasting rights

    This was on SEN

    The AFL has introduced a "social inclusion clause to diversify the presentation of football" at Channel 7 and Fox Footy from 2025 onwards.

    It means the TV rights contracts with the broadcasters requires them to have a diverse range of presenters.
    I like it in principle but the best people might not always be able to get 'on air' as much as they possibly should.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Broadcating rights

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    This was on SEN

    The AFL has introduced a "social inclusion clause to diversify the presentation of football" at Channel 7 and Fox Footy from 2025 onwards.

    It means the TV rights contracts with the broadcasters requires them to have a diverse range of presenters.
    I like it in principle but the best people might not always be able to get 'on air' as much as they possibly should.
    I suspect that’s a great sounding thing which will translate into:

    - some indigenous commentators (Burgoyne, Betts)
    - some women (many on each station)
    - former players (heaps)
    - non players (Hudson, et al)
    - different sexual orientation (AFLW Players are far more open about their sexual orientation, so two birds one stone)

    Status quo.

    Perhaps they try to get current players from various international backgrounds to special commentate or host a pregame or similar.

    This is the AFEL. If it’s going to be anything, it will be meaningless symbolism (that they’ll allege in a crisis shows them as progressive change agents).
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11839

      #3
      Re: Broadcating rights

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      This was on SEN

      The AFL has introduced a "social inclusion clause to diversify the presentation of football" at Channel 7 and Fox Footy from 2025 onwards.

      It means the TV rights contracts with the broadcasters requires them to have a diverse range of presenters.
      I like it in principle but the best people might not always be able to get 'on air' as much as they possibly should.
      You could argue whoever the 'best people' are they are nowhere near the Seven commentary box
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Broadcating rights

        Originally posted by hujsh
        You could argue whoever the 'best people' are they are nowhere near the Seven commentary box
        Yep. The best people are not on tv for the most part.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Uninformed
          Draftee
          • Jan 2023
          • 814

          #5
          Re: Broadcating rights

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          This was on SEN

          The AFL has introduced a "social inclusion clause to diversify the presentation of football" at Channel 7 and Fox Footy from 2025 onwards.

          It means the TV rights contracts with the broadcasters requires them to have a diverse range of presenters.
          I like it in principle but the best people might not always be able to get 'on air' as much as they possibly should.
          I would focus on getting more money out of them. Pay the players and coaches more.

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          • jDogs
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2023
            • 137

            #6
            Re: Broadcating rights

            Does anyone else watch the broadcasts on mute? I can't stand to listen to most of these clowns, they should be focusing on tightening things up instead of having so many people involved imo.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14301

              #7
              Re: Broadcasting rights

              Dani Laidley just got a job.
              Bring back the biff

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5113

                #8
                Re: Broadcasting rights

                Any different approach to the current one cannot be worse.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18957

                  #9
                  Re: Broadcating rights

                  Originally posted by jDogs
                  Does anyone else watch the broadcasts on mute? I can't stand to listen to most of these clowns, they should be focusing on tightening things up instead of having so many people involved imo.
                  Yes. I usually last for a quarter before I turn it down completely.
                  I wish we had premium options where we could choose behind the goals cameras and crowd sound only.

                  I'd pay extra for it.

                  I hate that in the coterie rooms they have the commentators turned up loud even in the toilets!
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11243

                    #10
                    Re: Broadcating rights

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    I suspect that?s a great sounding thing which will translate into:

                    - some indigenous commentators (Burgoyne, Betts)
                    - some women (many on each station)
                    - former players (heaps)
                    - non players (Hudson, et al)
                    - different sexual orientation (AFLW Players are far more open about their sexual orientation, so two birds one stone)

                    Status quo.

                    Perhaps they try to get current players from various international backgrounds to special commentate or host a pregame or similar.

                    This is the AFEL. If it?s going to be anything, it will be meaningless symbolism (that they?ll allege in a crisis shows them as progressive change agents).
                    The above is all true and has all happened, so this 'policy' announcement is utterly unnecessary - the free market has already decided.

                    Not sure why the AFEL need to make it their business what talent the networks decide to choose for their footy broadcasting (so long as they aren't convicted criminals). Ch 7 stink to high heaven IMO but it is their right to stink in a free market - they have stumped up the cash. This policy sounds quite dictatorial and old school communist to me.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • lemmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 6520

                      #11
                      Re: Broadcating rights

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      The above is all true and has all happened, so this 'policy' announcement is utterly unnecessary - the free market has already decided.

                      Not sure why the AFEL need to make it their business what talent the networks decide to choose for their footy broadcasting (so long as they aren't convicted criminals). Ch 7 stink to high heaven IMO but it is their right to stink in a free market - they have stumped up the cash. This policy sounds quite dictatorial and old school communist to me.
                      Ahhh yes, the bastion of diversity and heterogeneity that was the Politburo

                      I think the broadcasters have done an improved job of getting more diverse voices into footy media, so I don't think it's an issue that the AFL has put that into policy. No surprise that some of those 'diverse voices' have a heap more to say than the private school boy's club.

                      If the free market has dictated that I'm force-fed Brayshaw and BT together on a Friday night, we truly have reached late-stage capitalism.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11243

                        #12
                        Re: Broadcating rights

                        Originally posted by lemmon
                        Ahhh yes, the bastion of diversity and heterogeneity that was the Politburo

                        I think the broadcasters have done an improved job of getting more diverse voices into footy media, so I don't think it's an issue that the AFL has put that into policy. No surprise that some of those 'diverse voices' have a heap more to say than the private school boy's club.

                        If the free market has dictated that I'm force-fed Brayshaw and BT together on a Friday night, we truly have reached late-stage capitalism.
                        Hehe, the playbook is the same

                        Couldn't agree more on the Brayshaw/BT, but clearly there is a demographic that loves this style.

                        I hate with a passion governing bodies forcing and mandating anything - the free market has already broadened the commentary palette, and this policy is just posturing for the optics.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11839

                          #13
                          Re: Broadcasting rights

                          Why is 7 'the fee market' but not the AFL? Last I checked they aren't the government and I'm pretty sure their main focus is making money and justifying their wages/bonus' the same as any private company.

                          Sure on paper they're NFP but that don't mean much these days.

                          Lemmon and BT are on the right track the policy only exists because the companies are already following it and it gives the AFL social credit for when they next fail when there's an actual issue to contend with.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11243

                            #14
                            Re: Broadcasting rights

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            Why is 7 'the fee market' but not the AFL? Last I checked they aren't the government and I'm pretty sure their main focus is making money and justifying their wages/bonus' the same as any private company.

                            Sure on paper they're NFP but that don't mean much these days.

                            Lemmon and BT are on the right track the policy only exists because the companies are already following it and it gives the AFL social credit for when they next fail when there's an actual issue to contend with.
                            You are correct, but imposing a policy when the issue the policy is supposedly addressing has already been addressed organically is unnecessary at best. I guess it could be argued the AFEL is less "free market", being the governing body of a sporting code that benefits directly from govt funding and the public purse, whereas the networks are beholden to shareholders (yes they probably get substantial tax-break kick-backs from govts - the real world is nothing if not hypocritical).

                            I'm just not an optics guy. As you rightly point out, the optics will be trumpeted to all and sundry, but when the rubber hits the road and some real world issues come to the surface, the AFEL will abandon their ethics with Usain Bolt-like speed.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • angelopetraglia
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6838

                              #15
                              Re: Broadcasting rights

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Why is 7 'the fee market' but not the AFL? Last I checked they aren't the government and I'm pretty sure their main focus is making money and justifying their wages/bonus' the same as any private company.

                              Sure on paper they're NFP but that don't mean much these days.

                              Lemmon and BT are on the right track the policy only exists because the companies are already following it and it gives the AFL social credit for when they next fail when there's an actual issue to contend with.
                              There are no shareholders to pay profits or dividends too. I'm not sure what metrics the senior team are rewarded on, but it should be about growing the game, particpation, audience and crowds, not necessarily revenue. You could grow profit and kill the game.

                              The AFL is a very different beast to a for profit business that really has three key stakeholders, a) shareholders b) their team c) customers. You are always balancing the need of those three, if you prioitise one too far, it normally spells trouble.

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