Confirmed Trades - 2024

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18968

    #46
    Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

    Originally posted by bornadog
    In summary:

    *Carlton receives:
    A first-round pick (currently No.14)

    Hawthorn receives:
    A future first-round pick (tied to Carlton) and a future second-round pick (tied to Carlton)
    --------------------------------------

    *Brisbane Lions receive:
    A second-round pick (currently No.34) and a fourth-round pick (currently No.66)

    Carlton receive:
    A fourth-round pick (currently No.73) and a future second-round pick (tied to Brisbane)

    ------------------------------------------
    * Richmond receives:
    A first-round pick (currently No.20)

    Brisbane Lions receive:
    two second-round picks (currently No.32 and 42) and two third-round picks (currently No.43 and 45)

    ------------------------------------
    Carlton banking on finishing high next season.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66742

      #47
      Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      Carlton banking on finishing high next season.
      Also, not sure what the hell Hawks are doing?
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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10143

        #48
        Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Also, not sure what the hell Hawks are doing?
        I dunno I think that’s a canny trade. Pretty much a second rounder for free.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18968

          #49
          Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Also, not sure what the hell Hawks are doing?
          Maybe they think they can get back in to this year somehow? Not sure how they get Barrass in, I would have thought as others have said they'd want players in now.

          12 months in the system in a deep draft has to be a lot more attractive to the WCE than futures.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11186

            #50
            Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

            Interesting that the Eagles wanted something very similar to what's been proposed on here for Smith.

            STUNNER TURNS TRADE PERIOD ON ITS HEAD

            Jon Ralph
            Hawthorn has traded its no.14 draft pick for Carlton?s future first and second-round picks in a development that has turned the trade period on its head.

            The Hawks were understood to feel they were being urged to pay too much for Eagles defender Tom Barrass so progressed on a separate deal with Carlton.

            The Eagles wanted the Hawks No.14 pick and their future first-round pick but would have given their future second round pick back.

            Trading out pick 14 to Carlton means the only way the Hawks could get a Barrass deal done would be by using future picks.

            They have their own future first-rounder, the Carlton future first-rounder and the Carlton second-rounder.

            That development means West Coast would not have the trade collateral for Liam Baker, who might end up being traded to Fremantle.

            The Dockers could be prepared to pass on pick 10 or 11 to Richmond for Baker.

            He is aware of the fact that the Eagles might not have the trade collateral to get that deal done, with Richmond not interested in a pick slide with the Eagles No.3 draft pick.

            It means the Blues would have picks 12 and 14 and would be able to again get back into the race for Dan Houston.

            They needed to offer pick 12 and a sweeter for Houston and would keep pick 14 to take to the national draft.

            Collingwood has said it is only prepared to give up pick 13 and Joe Richards for Houston and would not hand over the No.23 pick if it secured that selection from the Suns in a trade for its future first rounder and John Noble.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11844

              #51
              Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

              So why not just trade 12 and a f2 for Houston? It kind of feels like they threw that f2 away for no reason.

              If I were Eagles I'd be expecting both those F1s now with no 2nd back.
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7700

                #52
                Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                Interesting. On the one hand Bailey is 23 and not 28 but on the other is out of contract vs Barrass in contract.

                I would say we have less bargaining power than the Eagles given the contract situation.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18968

                  #53
                  Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  So why not just trade 12 and a f2 for Houston? It kind of feels like they threw that f2 away for no reason.

                  If I were Eagles I'd be expecting both those F1s now with no 2nd back.
                  Yep the Eagles have to hold firm now the Hawks have been complete dicks. There's a massive badge of entitlement being worn by those teams that have "secured" the rose from the player Bachelorette style.

                  What a dumb system! Stop the nominations.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7700

                    #54
                    Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    Yep the Eagles have to hold firm now the Hawks have been complete dicks. There's a massive badge of entitlement being worn by those teams that have "secured" the rose from the player Bachelorette style.

                    What a dumb system! Stop the nominations.
                    Hawks have done what lions did to us with Dunkley. Difference is Dunkley was out of contract.

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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7374

                      #55
                      Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                      Hawks have done what lions did to us with Dunkley. Difference is Dunkley was out of contract.
                      West Coast should walk away.

                      Ring Tom - let him know when training starts and tell him he is staying at Lathlain Park. Do it as a video call and post it to their socials. I would be keen to use the words:

                      "I know Hawthorn have made a commitment to you - but we have been clear with them from the start. 2x First Round picks - including 1x this year - and we would give back a future 2nd. They have not honoured that commitment and we will not deal with terrorists (I would prefer the word dickheads but you know how this goes)...".

                      Make it look like one of those "Little Johnny is playing his first game" videos all the clubs seem to love so much.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        #56
                        Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                        I think Hawks will offer those picks acquired from Carlton for him.

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7374

                          #57
                          Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                          Originally posted by G-Mo77
                          I think Hawks will offer those picks acquired from Carlton for him.
                          And they should tell Hawthorn to take a flying leap.

                          They're in a rebuild NOW. What is the point of waiting another 12-months to turn one of their key assets into young players.

                          What a joke.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • MrMahatma
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3966

                            #58
                            Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            West Coast should walk away.

                            Ring Tom - let him know when training starts and tell him he is staying at Lathlain Park. Do it as a video call and post it to their socials. I would be keen to use the words:

                            "I know Hawthorn have made a commitment to you - but we have been clear with them from the start. 2x First Round picks - including 1x this year - and we would give back a future 2nd. They have not honoured that commitment and we will not deal with terrorists (I would prefer the word dickheads but you know how this goes)...".

                            Make it look like one of those "Little Johnny is playing his first game" videos all the clubs seem to love so much.
                            In reality, teams do need to start calling these bluffs. Until they do it’ll keep happening

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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6522

                              #59
                              Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                              Originally posted by MrMahatma
                              In reality, teams do need to start calling these bluffs. Until they do it’ll keep happening
                              Absolutely, and the Eagles are in the perfect position to make it happen. He's 29 and contracted for another 3 seasons, realistically, they can hold him to that and he finishes as an Eagle for life.

                              I don't get the hand-wringing about Barrass not being happy with his contract. He should sack his manager but at the end of the day, he put pen to paper on a long-term deal that saw him paid unders.

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7374

                                #60
                                Re: Confirmed Trades - 2024

                                Originally posted by lemmon
                                Absolutely, and the Eagles are in the perfect position to make it happen.
                                Um - and the fact that West Coast could probably purchase the Hawthorn Footy Club if it was on the market...unlike us West Coast are a club with some real 'power' and to be truthful ALL of the clubs need them to use it in this instance.

                                What Brisbane did with Dunkley (trading away a pick that coulda/shoulda been used for trade), what Hawthorn have done here...it's simply not in the spirit of the competition. There are 'rules' that govern sportsmanship etc...

                                Everyone quotes the NFL/NBA as examples of this. If Tom Barrass was in the NFL - say he was Joey Bosa who is the same age - and someone wanted to pry him away from the Chargers but didn't have a first round pick, they would be laughed away from the negotiating table...the difference is of course, that the Chargers can CHOOSE where to send him...

                                The system in the AFL is 100% broken.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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