Situation not fair on Richmond outcast Jordan McMahon

[LostDoggy]

Re: Situation not fair on Richmond outcast Jordan McMahon

Having said that, players that leave their first club and then return to the club have been quite common in the last decade or so - Croad, McPhee, J Murphy, Salmon amongst others.

That's what got me thinking (I would add Monty to that list)... you're right, it will probably never happen, but thought it would be fun to speculate.

[LostDoggy]

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The thinking in itself isn't that bad just not with McMahon. For where we're aiming to be will mean having a playing group that must legitimately be able to compete in high intensity finals footy. Pressure and McMahon don't go together. The risk going into a finals serious with McMahon would be too great. The opposition would exploit this weakness in an instant.

Yep. My provisos for even considering it, as I posted, were: an attitude change, a full apology, and working his butt off. If -- and it's a big if -- he does these things, he could be a very damaging player, but the signs haven't been good for a while now.

[AndrewP6]

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You know what, this is a bit out of left field, but what if he came back to the Dogs at bargain basement type prices (ie. sixth pick in the pre-season draft type thing)? Obviously there's a lot of water that has to go under the bridge for that to ever happen, and I, too think that he's a knob that shouldn't have bagged the club on the way out, but if he gets his head in the right space, apologises, knuckles down and works hard, he would be a direct replacement for Eagle (that Farren was supposed to be) in the next few years, and we aren't exactly flush at the moment for lightning runners through the middle with a decent kick. At 26, too, he would be just coming into his prime as an athlete, and we would get immediate value out of him for the next 2-3 years while our window is wide open. Thoughts?

I'd pass... not only for the appalling potshots he took at the club (publicly) after leaving, but for his softness and bad case of turnoveritis...

He could work on the latter two, but he'd still be a knob.

[mjp]

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In his defense, if he was such a bad kick / turnover merchant why was he trusted to kick-out on such a regular basis?

Playing him for Coburg 2's is not exactly going to motivate him to improve. Richmond should have known what they were getting with Jordy and play up to that side of his personality rather than crushing it - he needs to run, he needs to have a license to play with flair and he needs to be part of a supportive environment. He took potshots at the club on the way out because he didn't believe he was offered a fair market value contract by a club where he had spent (I think) 6 years. Last I checked 24 year olds did lots of immature things, and 24 yo footballers living life in a bubble of $250K salaries and tanning salons do even more immature things than most.

What Richmond are doing discredits them as much as anything - you would think they would be trying to make this relationship work so that he is at least worth something in this years trade period...but why get smart about things now? Why look forwards now? I mean, they are only last on the ladder, haven't won a game and are screaming out for talent.

[Missing Dog]

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He took potshots at the club on the way out because he didn't believe he was offered a fair market value contract by a club where he had spent (I think) 6 years.

He was offered a fair contract during his last season and knocked it back. His form went backwards and at the end of the season was offered a reduced salary to reflect his reduced form.

[Doc26]

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In his defense, if he was such a bad kick / turnover merchant why was he trusted to kick-out on such a regular basis?

I wouldn't say McMahon was a bad kick, to the contrary, but I would say under the pressure of a contest, perceived or otherwise, he would often go to water which did often result in poor disposal. Unlike in the field of play, there is no 'contest' related pressure when having to kick the ball back in (granted a different type of pressure to spot up a target) and as such this environment often suited McMahon to effectively find a target.

[mjp]

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He was offered a fair contract during his last season and knocked it back. His form went backwards and at the end of the season was offered a reduced salary to reflect his reduced form.

So, dont you think that would be upsetting.

In June you are worth $x + y...by September - in a season where the entire team collapsed - you are only worth $x?

Sure what he said was disappointing, but to me it was understandable.

[LostDoggy]

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that photo makes the article so much better

[EasternWest]

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Prejudices against Jordan aside, it's had to imagine him not being good enough to be in their best 22.

[Bulldog4life]

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Last I checked 24 year olds did lots of immature things, and 24 yo footballers living life in a bubble of $250K salaries and tanning salons do even more immature things than most.

With McMahon's Indian heritage I doubt he'd need to go to a tanning salon.

[Mofra]

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With McMahon's Indian heritage I doubt he'd need to go to a tanning salon.

Then why do you think he was a Wallace favourite?

[Bulldog4life]

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Then why do you think he was a Wallace favourite?

His porn star moustache?

[Desipura]

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Then why do you think he was a Wallace favourite?

Wallace like Scott Clayton liked the quick outside runners. The following had at least one of the two critieria)
McMahon
Ray
Power (although not quick, certainly fits the other criteria)
Malcolm Lynch
Brad Murphy
just to name a few off the top of my head

[azabob]

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Wallace like Scott Clayton liked the quick outside runners. The following had at least one of the two critieria)
McMahon
Ray
Power (although not quick, certainly fits the other criteria)
Malcolm Lynch
Brad Murphy
just to name a few off the top of my head

You say it as its a bad thing.
Of our current list perhaps what we lack most is an outside runner.

Also what was the other criteria?

[chef]

Re: Situation not fair on Richmond outcast Jordan McMahon

You say it as its a bad thing.
Of our current list perhaps what we lack most is an outside runner.

Also what was the other criteria?

The criteria was quick and outside.