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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #31
    Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

    Originally posted by dfa4pm
    A 22 and a 24 year old with a girl between 17-19 who told them she was 18?

    No case to answer, move along, these aren't the droids you're looking for.

    End of story.
    Its not that clear DFA4PM. The footballers are in a position of power (just like teachers are). We all know what happens to teachers that sleep with their students.
    The players went to a high school footy clinic in which the girl attended.
    When they met in Sydney, the players claim the girl said she was 19yo and do not remember her from the school footy clinic.
    If it can be proven that the players do remember the girl from the school, they are in some serious trouble.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15523

      #32
      Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

      Originally posted by comrade
      The whispers suggest a Collingwood player might also be involved.
      Bingo!!

      Pies player linked to Saints sex scandal

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      • Desipura
        WOOF Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 4344

        #33
        Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Page 30 of the bible

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

          Originally posted by Desipura
          Its not that clear DFA4PM. The footballers are in a position of power (just like teachers are). We all know what happens to teachers that sleep with their students.
          The players went to a high school footy clinic in which the girl attended.
          When they met in Sydney, the players claim the girl said she was 19yo and do not remember her from the school footy clinic.
          If it can be proven that the players do remember the girl from the school, they are in some serious trouble.
          There are ways to prove what a person can or can't remember- but I've forgotten them.

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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #35
            Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Originally posted by Running Dog
            There are ways to prove what a person can or can't remember- but I've forgotten them.
            With mobile phones & facebook to name a few, its easy to track text messages or any type of message by time and by date.

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6402

              #36
              Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

              Originally posted by Desipura
              Page 30 of the bible
              30? .....I thought Beams wore 17?

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                Looking at it from a purely financial (and not emotional) view:

                Single parent's pension of just over $600 pf = $15,600.
                Rent assistance of about $130 pf = $3,380.
                Maximum child support income amount is $147,135, if the player earns more than that then child support would be about $16.5k

                All adds up to nearly $35,500, tax free. Without leaving the couch. (I'm not sure how the child support affects the pension & RA though). This is all very rough estimates.

                If I was a young woman, I'd consider it too. This without the baby bonus.

                I'm not condoning what the Saints players did, if it comes out they've done the wrong thing, but at the end of the day, this young woman needs to take responsibility too.

                I feel sorry for the kid. Awful circumstances to come into the world.

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                • EasternWest
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 10036

                  #38
                  Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                  Originally posted by aker39
                  They will have a case to answer if they got her details while conducting the clinic at her school.
                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  If it can be proven that the players do remember the girl from the school, they are in some serious trouble.
                  True and true.
                  "It's over. It's all over."

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                  • EasternWest
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10036

                    #39
                    Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                    Well, that settles it.

                    "It's over. It's all over."

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                    • AndrewP6
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8142

                      #40
                      Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                      Heard tonight that she is 16...not sure if that's fact, but that was on the telly.
                      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #41
                        Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                        As mjp says Andrew Lovett wil be more than an interested observer, particularly his legal team if one or two players are charged.

                        I just hope the 3rd player isn't one of ours.
                        Beammeupie

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                        • Throughandthrough
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 3204

                          #42
                          Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                          I think everyone knows who the players are now, but anyways

                          If they did meet at a school clinic, you can be as sure as anything that someone would have taken a photo of it.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 15065

                            #43
                            Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                            Originally posted by BornAScragger
                            Looking at it from a purely financial (and not emotional) view:
                            Is the child support rate still 18% of yoru gross slaary above a threshhold of $35k?

                            She wont struggle like many other single mothers do - provided she proceeds with the paternity test after the baby is born.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #44
                              Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Is the child support rate still 18% of yoru gross slaary above a threshhold of $35k?

                              She wont struggle like many other single mothers do - provided she proceeds with the paternity test after the baby is born.
                              No, the rules have changed and the formula takes lots of things into account. 18% is a good rough guide though. I have three myself, and pay a small fortune… They're worth it though, all solid hardcore Bulldog pups…

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                              • Desipura
                                WOOF Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 4344

                                #45
                                Re: The Saints are at it again, it seems...

                                As soon as the story broke I knew it was not Kosi, he could not hit the target.

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