Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    #16
    Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

    Firstly, we all would agree that it is positive that women have a place as commentators.
    that's no issue.

    There are lots of backstories to be told and this is where her focus is. Does she do her job well? If it's to sell papers, sure. One interesting note however, she rarely writes about anyone from the Western Bulldogs, except for Aker. I think this is a good thing!

    Regards footy classifieds, quite astonishing the way C. Hutchinson went after her. It was quite personal and seemed to go on for ages. Not a good look for the show as a whole, even if she was wrong. ( It did seem like she was )
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14580

      #17
      Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Firstly, we all would agree that it is positive that women have a place as commentators.
      that's no issue.

      There are lots of backstories to be told and this is where her focus is. Does she do her job well? If it's to sell papers, sure. One interesting note however, she rarely writes about anyone from the Western Bulldogs, except for Aker. I think this is a good thing!

      Regards footy classifieds, quite astonishing the way C. Hutchinson went after her. It was quite personal and seemed to go on for ages. Not a good look for the show as a whole, even if she was wrong. ( It did seem like she was )
      Brayshaws one of Huchy's mates so it's expected he would go after her.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Flamethrower
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2009
        • 1355

        #18
        Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

        Caro was right about North. When they decided not to persue the Gold Coast gig, the Kangaroos promised their members that they would be 100% exclusive Melbourne based club - no more home games outside Victoria. next thing you know they are negotiating with the Tassie government to play 4 home games in Hobart.

        Caro's articles explore the private lives of players too much at times for my liking, but overall I like the way she challenges clubs and people within clubs to get the "inside" story.
        Footscray member since 1980.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15206

          #19
          Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

          Originally posted by Greystache
          Yeah she has, usually when she's blatanty wrong and hasn't been able to get them to move on to the next segment, or when they've questioned her place to make particularly personal comments about a senior football identity. She doesn't do it all that much.
          I find it hard to believe Caro has played the "i'm a women card", you don't seem to convinced either with the tone of your post.

          Whereas your previous posts on Caro were strongly argued.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #20
            Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

            Originally posted by Flamethrower
            Caro was right about North. When they decided not to persue the Gold Coast gig, the Kangaroos promised their members that they would be 100% exclusive Melbourne based club - no more home games outside Victoria. next thing you know they are negotiating with the Tassie government to play 4 home games in Hobart.

            Caro's articles explore the private lives of players too much at times for my liking, but overall I like the way she challenges clubs and people within clubs to get the "inside" story.
            They showed video footage of James Brayshaw's presidency acceptance speech on FC where he clearly stated if Norf was presented with an opportunity like Hawthorn was in Tasmania they would take it and embrace it. Once shown this Caroline's position shifted significantly from the one she took in her article.
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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #21
              Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

              Originally posted by bobmurphy
              I find it hard to believe Caro has played the "i'm a women card", you don't seem to convinced either with the tone of your post.

              Whereas your previous posts on Caro were strongly argued.
              I suggest you watch the show if you need proof. I have witnessed it first hand numerous times.

              I think Caroline Wilson is a pathetic, hypocritical, weak bully, who takes shots at people from behind her newspaper articles and doesn't have the strength of character to allow people to challenge her statements. She is a disgrace in what has become a disgraceful industry.

              I just don't feel the need to force my opinion down the throat of someone who didn't necessarily agree with me.
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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7471

                #22
                Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                Originally posted by Greystache
                I suggest you watch the show if you need proof. I have witnessed it first hand numerous times.
                .
                I don't know if she is still doing it but she did it every 3rd week when Grant Thomas was there.

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  #23
                  Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                  Not a fan of her at all, she speaks with great "authority", and goes on about her reliable sources, but doesn't often seem to be able to back her words up... She'll say something like "Believe me, Craig, I know this happened" but apart from her word, has little else. Comes across as very pompous to me...
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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5091

                    #24
                    Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                    I'm not a fan. I feel she tends to act as if her word is gospel, and in order to get her "scoops" she pretty much beats up every whiff of a story she gets, which means she can make a massive conspiracy story out of a coincidence.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      #25
                      Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      I just don't feel the need to force my opinion down the throat of someone who didn't necessarily agree with me.
                      I must remember that for next time.

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                      • Nuggety Back Pocket
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 2064

                        #26
                        Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                        Originally posted by Flamethrower
                        Caro was right about North. When they decided not to persue the Gold Coast gig, the Kangaroos promised their members that they would be 100% exclusive Melbourne based club - no more home games outside Victoria. next thing you know they are negotiating with the Tassie government to play 4 home games in Hobart.

                        Caro's articles explore the private lives of players too much at times for my liking, but overall I like the way she challenges clubs and people within clubs to get the "inside" story.
                        Caroline is able to provide a different perspective to the other so called male experts on television and radio. Comes from a strong football pedigree being the daughter of ex-Richmond President who along with Graeme Richmond was part of a very successful Tigers era, in the '60's and '70's. Caro and Sam Lane are really the two best women standouts as footy journalists.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #27
                          Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                          Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                          Caroline is able to provide a different perspective to the other so called male experts on television and radio. Comes from a strong football pedigree being the daughter of ex-Richmond President who along with Graeme Richmond was part of a very successful Tigers era, in the '60's and '70's. Caro and Sam Lane are really the two best women standouts as footy journalists.
                          Is that some sort of wind up? Sam Lane who after years of meticulous media training still can't string two words together, Sam Lane who only got a job at channel 10 as part of her dad's package to move stations, Sam Lane who's lack of understanding of the sport in general leads to her asking such bizarre questions that her interview subjects can't follow her and simply make up an answer to keep the interview going?

                          Emma Quayle is an outstanding female journalist, knows her stuff inside out and got her job on merit rather as a favour to her father.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            Emma Quayle is an outstanding female journalist, knows her stuff inside out and got her job on merit rather as a favour to her father.
                            This. Absolutely.

                            Emma Quayle's universal respect in the footy world should be the final word to anyone claiming that Caro gets victimised for being a woman. She gets victimised because she is a shit journo, the worst in the business alongside Greg Denham (and that's saying something).

                            I'm happy to read a negative story if its hard-hitting, well-researched, well-written, sheds light on an interesting issue, and has depth. If its just waffle trash beating up a story of a couple of blokes yelling at each other and calling it a 'crisis'.. look, I know you have to fill newspaper inches, but give me a break.

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14116

                              #29
                              Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                              What with nowadays posting headlines that dont relate to the story at all.
                              I have noticed it in the Hun a few times this year.
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15206

                                #30
                                Re: Caroline Wilson - Woof Verdict

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                What with nowadays posting headlines that dont relate to the story at all.
                                I have noticed it in the Hun a few times this year.
                                Surely this does not surprise you?
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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