Crows only have 19 players left to look at 'cos Griff has signed with us. HAH!

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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5113

    #31
    Re: Crows looking at 20 players

    Originally posted by mighty_west
    Speaks volumes about Griffins qualities if he's on the table!!
    Griffin has requested to return to WA for personal reasons. Adelaide hasn't placed him on the trade table by choice, however I'm tipping they aren't too dissapointed with his decision.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • mighty_west
      Coaching Staff
      • Feb 2008
      • 3438

      #32
      Re: Crows looking at 20 players

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Yep, that's what is being reported.

      I think what type of compenasation you receive determines when you can use them. ie. If you receive 2 first rd picks as compenastion (which Geelong may receive for Ablett, and we may do also for Harbrow - One of these picks is immediately after your 1st pick in the draft and the other at the end of the 1st rd) I am reasonably sure that you can't use them this year. What has to happen is that you have to nominate at the start of the year when you would like to use them and it would be beneficial to do so when you believe you will have an 'off' year to maximise the advantage given.

      Clubs who receive the 2 picks would be stupid to use them this year & next with the all the raping & pillaging GC and GWS will do to do these drafts.
      Are clubs going to be so patient to wait 4 or 5 years though to use those picks though?

      The other issue is that next year this all happens again with GWS, and picking the eyes out of clubs by taking an uncontrated, we can all see that they won't just be dud players, and if the clubs have to wait, say with Geelong and Ablett, surely they will get 2 first rounders, to wait to use after their first pick and at the end of the first round, after 2011 is when you'd think most clubs will start using those picks....but then you'd also have to wait for those other clubs to start using all these picks as well which in effect also pushes back clubs picks who finish high up on the ladder, so there are also going to be issues with not being able to use those picks as high as possble.

      You would think that most clubs will want to pounce in the 2012 draft, and clubs that do finish high up, will still have to wait to use their first pick as well as the compo picks anyway, so team that finish top 4, wil most likely have their first pick & comp picks after that in the 20's anyway [depending on how many use their picks in the first round that year], and to use their second compo pick after round 1, which in any normal draft both or all compo selections be as high as a 2nd round pick anyway.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14946

        #33
        Re: Crows looking at 20 players

        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
        Can the Mods please change the thread title to 'Crows now looking at 19 players'.
        I endorse this proposal

        Re: Minson - do we knwo Minson's manager is shopping him around? He was pushed out of the side by a 19 year old with no pre-season (yes I know Minno's was interrupted too) and last week Roughy was selected ahead of him.

        I'd prefer to have 3 decent rucks on the list for back up and knowing Roughy/Hudson are unlikely to play 22 games each, but if he wants to go and we can get a good deal for him I'd consider it. We don't have too many irreplaceable players at the Kennel and everyone else could be considered.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Crows looking at 20 players

          As much as I love him, I think we could generally cover Minson leaving. Looks promising if we were to get a decent pickup from it as Adelaide would be desperate for a number one ruck.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #35
            Re: Crows looking at 20 players

            Does anyone find it ironic that they traded The Beard away to us, and now want Minnow because they are short on ruck stocks?

            As a wise man on WOOF likes to say: trading is the work of the devil.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18028

              #36
              Re: Crows looking at 20 players

              Originally posted by Lantern

              As a wise man on WOOF likes to say: trading is the work of the devil.
              Don't suck up now
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Crows looking at 20 players

                Originally posted by comrade
                Don't suck up now
                I totally forgot to put "wise" in quotations.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  #38
                  Re: Crows looking at 19 players 'cos Griff has signed with us. Hahahahahahahahahahaha

                  Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                  Can the Mods please change the thread title to 'Crows now looking at 19 players'.
                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  I endorse this proposal

                  Done!
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10152

                    #39
                    Re: Crows looking at 20 players

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Yep, that's what is being reported.

                    I think what type of compenasation you receive determines when you can use them. ie. If you receive 2 first rd picks as compenastion (which Geelong may receive for Ablett, and we may do also for Harbrow
                    How certain are you that the compensation for Harbrow will be as above?

                    Given the Crows are likely to only get a singular 1st round selection for Bock it seems likely we'll get the same or worse.

                    Whilst Harbrow has some runs on the board he's still not an AA player, nor a B&F winner or place getter. I tend to think the coin he gets will be lower than what Bock has signed on for (which I've seen touted as being the new, simplified formula for compensation, although I have not seen anything of substance to that end)
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15303

                      #40
                      Re: Crows looking at 20 players

                      Originally posted by Griffen#16
                      How certain are you that the compensation for Harbrow will be as above?

                      Given the Crows are likely to only get a singular 1st round selection for Bock it seems likely we'll get the same or worse.

                      Whilst Harbrow has some runs on the board he's still not an AA player, nor a B&F winner or place getter. I tend to think the coin he gets will be lower than what Bock has signed on for (which I've seen touted as being the new, simplified formula for compensation, although I have not seen anything of substance to that end)
                      I tend to think the same, only thing in our favour is Harbrows age. Perhaps something like what port got for Nathan Krakour is more in line.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Go_Dogs
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 10152

                        #41
                        Re: Crows looking at 20 players

                        Originally posted by bobmurphy
                        I tend to think the same, only thing in our favour is Harbrows age. Perhaps something like what port got for Nathan Krakour is more in line.
                        I'd be hoping for more than a 3rd round selection in a compromised draft!

                        But something in the 2nd round is not out of the AFL's WTF realm of possibility, and that may be something around 35 or 40. Bastards.

                        I'd certainly be wanting at least a 1st round pick personally. Perhaps something like a 1st and a throwaway 3rd round could be right. If I were the Crows I'd at least be pushing for something like that too rather than just a singular 1st round pick at 25 or 28 or whatever...
                        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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