Fevola faces axe from Lions

[Mofra]

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He came out and said his only problem is with the horses so pokies are ok. Clearly still delusional.

That is unbelieveable from someone who spent nigh on 2 months in rehab.
If he has an addictive personality there is no half measure, especially with gambling. He's kidding himself.

[Twodogs]

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He came out and said his only problem is with the horses so pokies are ok. Clearly still delusional.

That is unbelieveable from someone who spent nigh on 2 months in rehab.
If he has an addictive personality there is no half measure, especially with gambling. He's kidding himself.

That get's back to my point about his trouble with listening. He keeps coming back to this idea that because it was the ponie's that he got into trouble with, therefore all other forms of gambling are OK. I even heard him claim that a counseller told him it woud be therapeutic for him to indulge in forms of gambling that didnt involve betting on the horses.

Clearly he either picks and chooses the advice he wants to hear and rejects the advice he doesnt like the sound of that counseller was an idiot and shouldnt be in a position of offering advice.

KB made a good point this morning when he said that Fev has really run off the rails since Dick Pratt died. Maybe Pratt was a good influence on Fev?

[Bornadog]

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That get's back to my point about his trouble with listening. He keeps coming back to this idea that because it was the ponie's that he got into trouble with, therefore all other forms of gambling are OK. I even heard him claim that a counseller told him it would be therapeutic for him to indulge in forms of gambling that didnt involve betting on the horses.

Clearly he either picks and chooses the advice he wants to hear and rejects the advice he doesnt like the sound of that counseller was an idiot and shouldnt be in a position of offering advice.

KB made a good point this morning when he said that Fev has really run off the rails since Dick Pratt died. Maybe Pratt was a good influence on Fev?

You mean the same guy that had two Mistresses one an ex prostitute.

[LostDoggy]

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He came out and said his only problem is with the horses so pokies are ok. Clearly still delusional.

Online Poker is his main vice now, and he can play that without anyone knowing. If you were to believe a poster in the BF poker board about 18 months ago, via a product called sharkscope he was able to determine some exceptionally large losses.

I cant remember his online player name, however from memory it was made up of part of this name and jumper number at carlton

[Twodogs]

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BTW I'd hate to be a gambling addict. It seems that everywhere you turn there's a gaming outlet shoving their sevices down your throat. It's almost seems unAustralian not to bet.

At least with drugs it's relatively easy to choose to avoid friends or places who indulge in coke/speed/heroin/pot. But it's almost impossible to avoid gambling of some form in this country. Every workplace has a footy tipping comp and Melbourne cup sweeps, every pub is a defacto TAB outlet, there's ads for sportsbetting agencys on TV or radio or in the written press. I dont have a problem ignoring them but if I was an addict I just dont know how I'd cope.

[LostDoggy]

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KB made a good point this morning when he said that Fev has really run off the rails since Dick Pratt died. Maybe Pratt was a good influence on Fev?

Is KB pointing out that like Dick Pratt, he used to get away with it? Or someone to pay out the problems?

[Topdog]

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Online Poker is his main vice now, and he can play that without anyone knowing. If you were to believe a poster in the BF poker board about 18 months ago, via a product called sharkscope he was able to determine some exceptionally large losses.

I cant remember his online player name, however from memory it was made up of part of this name and jumper number at carlton

LOL if you find that thread again and read it you will see it was debunked by everyone in the Poker forum, including me.

Besides him at one stage being sponsored to play (not his money for the most part) he had lost something like $5k in 3 months. Certainly that is a lot for me but I don't earn $700k a year.

[Twodogs]

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You mean the same guy that had two Mistresses one an ex prostitute.

Is KB pointing out that like Dick Pratt, he used to get away with it? Or someone to pay out the problems?

I dont think that KB was nominating Pratt for a posthomous Nobel prize. He was more pointing out that there is a correlation between his death and Fev really running off the rails.

Then again Fev was no choir boy at the start of his career. Like Chop's said, maybe Pratt was in a position to cover up his excesses using his influence with people or just plain covering the debts he ran up.

David Parkin has some very interesting insights on the Fev situation and what it was like handling him in the early days at carlton.

[Topdog]

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what did Parko say? / Where did he say it?

[Twodogs]

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what did Parko say? / Where did he say it?

A synopsis of the top of my head;


When Fev first turned up at the Blues Parko asked him what he wanted to do with his life and he said that all he wanted to be was a professional footballer. Fev said that now that he was on an AFL list he was going to chuck school in because he thought that going to school was basically a waste of his time. Parkin told him that with an attitude like that then as long as he was the coach Fev would never play a game in the seniors. If Fev wanted to prove that he was determined to succeed then at the very least he would finish his secondary school education.

It was on an ABC radio football broadcast last year.

[AndrewP6]

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That is unbelieveable from someone who spent nigh on 2 months in rehab.
If he has an addictive personality there is no half measure, especially with gambling. He's kidding himself.

But not that uncommmon... often part of the problem is their belief that they are OK, and that they have it (the addiction) under control.

[Twodogs]

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Besides him at one stage being sponsored to play (not his money for the most part) he had lost something like $5k in 3 months.

This bit intrigues me. I understand that you have debunked the fact it wasnt Fev the poster was talking about but let's say for argument's sake it was. Even if it isnt his own money he was using is it still a problem with his rehab that he is gambling?

Is the problem, a/ the fact he is still gambling?(no matter whose money he was using) b/the fact he doesnt seem to be very good at gambling or c/gambling in itself.

Lot's of people make a good living from gambling successfully-are they addicts too or is it just the mugs that do their dough who are considered to have a problem?

[GVGjr]

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Lot's of people make a good living from gambling successfully-are they addicts too or is it just the mugs that do their dough who are considered to have a problem?

In my opinion an addict is someone who agrees that he is gambling more than he should and the urge to keep doing so is stronger than what his own common sense is telling him.

Fev isn't in a good enough place to say I have a problem with the horses or cards but not with poker machines.

BTW, plenty of successful gamblers still have gambling problems.

[Twodogs]

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In my opinion an addict is someone who agrees that he is gambling more than he should and the urge to keep doing so is stronger than what his own common sense is telling him.

Yep. That's a good succint definition. Urge is the key word I reckon.


BTW There's an accountant's office near where I live. About a year ago I walked past his office one sunday morning about 8.30am on the way to the supermarket. The door opened and a bloke walked out (along with a plume of smoke) and I noticed there was half a dozen blokes sitting around his desk playing poker-Texas hold 'em from memory.

They had obviously been sitting there all night playing and I can remember thinking "I must cross him off my list of accountants I will use". Just lately I've noticed he's been having a bit of trouble with smashed windows and other acts of vandallism to his office. I wonder if the two things are connected?

[Topdog]

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This bit intrigues me. I understand that you have debunked the fact it wasnt Fev the poster was talking about but let's say for argument's sake it was. Even if it isnt his own money he was using is it still a problem with his rehab that he is gambling?

Is the problem, a/ the fact he is still gambling?(no matter whose money he was using) b/the fact he doesnt seem to be very good at gambling or c/gambling in itself.

Lot's of people make a good living from gambling successfully-are they addicts too or is it just the mugs that do their dough who are considered to have a problem?

Sorry it was Fev (this is dating back 2-3 years now btw) but he wasn't some reckless moron losing a load of money (comparable to ones salary) doing it.

It is certainly an issue for him and 1 that he needs to sort and he needs to get it into his head that poker and pokies are still a major problem for him.