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  • Doc26
    Coaching Staff
    • Sep 2009
    • 3087

    #31
    Re: Justin Sherman

    Originally posted by Doc26
    It is understood he has a heavily back ended contract at the Lions and I suspect the Lions would prefer to trade him to a Club that could wear the bulk if not all of this loading assuming they are in as bad a shape financially as has been reported.
    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
    I think the challenge for any team dealing with Brisbane is how much of Sherman's salary they cover. The team that is prepared to pay the greatest majority of it is likely to get a much better deal from Brisbane.

    Not sure if I explained that too well, but say he's on 400K a year & one team says we'll pay $350 of that, Brisbane may be prepared to accept a pick of about 30 & if another team says we'll only pay $250 of his salary, Brisbane might want a pick around 20. Just use those picks/figures as a guide to illustrate my point, forget the actuals as they may be nowhere near right.
    Thanks TCD. I agree. I endeavoured to make this point earlier in the thread. I suspect due to likely demand for a quick if Sherman does depart Brisbane that Brisbane wont be left carrying much if any of his back ended contract.

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    • boydogs
      WOOF Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 5842

      #32
      Re: Justin Sherman

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      Johnno & Eagle were on the vets list, so we're only culling half of their salaries, Aker & Harbrow weren't on alot & even if you take out Everitt & Hill's salaries you have to factor into the equation recent re-signings in Lake, Cooney & Griffen (might be some serious coin there).
      Lake was last year, so this year's cap already included him. Griffen apparently stayed for a lot less than he was offered elsewhere. Not sure on Cooney, but I thought he already had a new contract done after his Brownlow, so wouldn't be in line for a massive increase.

      2 pay rises you would think would be a fair bit less than 3-5 full salaries

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      I think the challenge for any team dealing with Brisbane is how much of Sherman's salary they cover. The team that is prepared to pay the greatest majority of it is likely to get a much better deal from Brisbane.

      Not sure if I explained that too well, but say he's on 400K a year & one team says we'll pay $350 of that, Brisbane may be prepared to accept a pick of about 30 & if another team says we'll only pay $250 of his salary, Brisbane might want a pick around 20. Just use those picks/figures as a guide to illustrate my point, forget the actuals as they may be nowhere near right.
      My point exactly. Your numbers don't sound unreasonable either, which would mean it's either the higher salary and the Harbrow pick, or a Everitt/Hill pick if things like pick 18 from Carlton are accurate

      Originally posted by Doc26
      I suspect due to likely demand for a quick if Sherman does depart Brisbane that Brisbane wont be left carrying much if any of his back ended contract.
      By the sounds of it, Brisbane would be well inclined to accept a lesser deal to make that happen, which actually puts us at a disadvantage compared to sides like Melbourne who forward-ended contracts this year to meet the minimum TPP
      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

      Formerly gogriff

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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6432

        #33
        Re: Justin Sherman

        If he can bring this to the table

        I would be certainly inclined to grab him, fits the mould as a ball runner and line breaker which I think outweigh his deficiencies

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #34
          Re: Justin Sherman

          Originally posted by lemmon
          If he can bring this to the table

          I would be certainly inclined to grab him, fits the mould as a ball runner and line breaker which I think outweigh his deficiencies
          Fantstic pace. The kick went through but it was a floater.

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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11048

            #35
            Re: Justin Sherman

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            Fantstic pace. The kick went through but it was a floater.
            He's the master of the floater.

            We'd need to work hard to improve parts of his game - which may or may not work - but he's got talent (and pace) to burn.

            A fit midfield trio of Cooney, Griffen and Sherman would be very exciting and hard to quell. Although, he's probably played better footy as a half forward.
            W00F!

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #36
              Re: Justin Sherman

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              He's the master of the floater.

              We'd need to work hard to improve parts of his game - which may or may not work - but he's got talent (and pace) to burn.

              A fit midfield trio of Cooney, Griffen and Sherman would be very exciting and hard to quell. Although, he's probably played better footy as a half forward.
              I would add Higgins into that group as well, next year is a really big year for him personally as he needs to cement himself as primarily a midfielder who can push forward next season.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13125

                #37
                Re: Justin Sherman

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                Fantstic pace. The kick went through but it was a floater.
                Tell me one player other than Harvey who moves that quick that doesn't have ordinary disposal.

                Wojo, Davey they all butcher it at full tilt
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Scorlibo
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 3064

                  #38
                  Re: Justin Sherman

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  Tell me one player other than Harvey who moves that quick that doesn't have ordinary disposal.

                  Wojo, Davey they all butcher it at full tilt
                  Judd @ West Coast, was why he was such an incredible player. Now he can't get to that pace in the first place.

                  You're right though, that extreme pace almost always comes at the price of foot skills.
                  'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                  • mjp
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7244

                    #39
                    Re: Justin Sherman

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Tell me one player other than Harvey who moves that quick that doesn't have ordinary disposal.
                    Peter Matera.
                    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11050

                      #40
                      Re: Justin Sherman

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      Tell me one player other than Harvey who moves that quick that doesn't have ordinary disposal.
                      Andrew Lovett, probably the best and most balanced kick at pace in the AFL the last few years. Pity his brain is anything but balanced.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13125

                        #41
                        Re: Justin Sherman

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Peter Matera.
                        True. Current player
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #42
                          Re: Justin Sherman

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Andrew Lovett, probably the best and most balanced kick at pace in the AFL the last few years. Pity his brain is anything but balanced.
                          He might have to utilise his fast movement skills in prison...IF things don't go his way..
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6432

                            #43
                            Re: Justin Sherman

                            Originally posted by AndrewP6
                            He might have to utilise his fast movement skills in prison...IF things don't go his way..
                            I think his improved ball handling skills may means his pace isnt required

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #44
                              Re: Justin Sherman

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              I think his improved ball handling skills may means his pace isnt required
                              I just spilt a mouthful of Canadian Club reading that. Fortunately not on my new camera!
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15125

                                #45
                                Re: Justin Sherman

                                Originally posted by AndrewP6
                                I just spilt a mouthful of Canadian Club reading that. Fortunately not on my new camera!
                                Suggest you drop the whole lot!
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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