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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43906

    #16
    Re: Mike's Top 50

    Originally posted by bornadog
    What a joke, Griff is at least in the top 20.
    He is too inconstant to be given that sort of rating
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    • Jasper
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2009
      • 1247

      #17
      Re: Mike's Top 50

      Originally posted by Lantern
      Mike's love-affair with Selwood continues if he's a top 20 player. How he can REMOTELY be rated higher than Pavlich, J.Brown, etc. is ridiculous. The guy is a good midfielder, and a tough bugger, but he's in the same bracket as someone like Dal Santo or a fit Daniel Kerr ie. a top-class 2nd/3rd midfielder playing alongside a modern day great.. not to mention the fact that Joel is a great front-runner in a gun team.

      from a different sport, the real Scottie Pippen once MJ left the Bulls. Still good players, but geez, nowhere near as dominant as they looked in previous seasons.

      And Pavlich not being in the top 10, much less the top 20, based on the year just past is nonsensical. Brady Rawlings ahead of Pav? Mike, you've got to get off that stuff.
      Pav had about 7 good games this year. Rawlings probably had 20.
      Don't disagree Pav's best is WAAAAY better, but Rawlings is highly under rated
      Selwood is so much better than Dal Santo, it's ridiculous. He actually gets his own ball.
      And we are talking about performance in 2010, so he easily exceeds J Brown and Pav

      As for Pippen, his best individual season (93-94) was when Jordan was retired.
      22 pts, 9 rbds, 6 assists, 3 steals.
      Remained in the All NBA First team too
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: Mike's Top 50

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Deledio's high rating gives me the shits.... esepcially compared to Griffen.

        The bloke can't handle a tag in the midfield so they send him down to HB to rack up numbers... How hard is that?

        Griffen is so under-rated by flogs like Sheahan it isn't funny.
        Thankyou. Perplexes me how he's rated by so many, without achieving anything.

        ...and c'mon, Matthew Scarlett @ 33. It's the 2010 season. You reward the players who had standout seasons don't you?

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        • Jasper
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2009
          • 1247

          #19
          Re: Mike's Top 50

          Originally posted by Captain Groenewagon
          My bad, forgot Jobe.
          Was assuming Mike's love for Saint Nick would carry him into Top Ten despite injury.
          Drop in Jobe at 20, push everyone else up.
          Apparently Jobe not on the list.

          Missing link has to be a Pies player.
          Presumably Heath Shaw, but possibly Nick Maxwell based on Mike's love of "leadership".
          I suspect the former.
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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5471

            #20
            Re: Mike's Top 50

            Originally posted by M.R.M
            Thankyou. Perplexes me how he's rated by so many, without achieving anything.

            ...and c'mon, Matthew Scarlett @ 33. It's the 2010 season. You reward the players who had standout seasons don't you?
            Even Goodes. For the first half of the year, when he was playing forward, he did very very little. Scarlett is a joke.

            Deledio is not the 25th best player in the game.

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            • The Adelaide Connection
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2009
              • 2710

              #21
              Re: Mike's Top 50

              Originally posted by M.R.M
              Thankyou. Perplexes me how he's rated by so many, without achieving anything.

              ...and c'mon, Matthew Scarlett @ 33. It's the 2010 season. You reward the players who had standout seasons don't you?
              No. No he doesn't.

              J. Brown in the top 10 will confirm that. Champion player who had a terrible year (played injured for most games and missed quite a bit).

              I bet both he and Riewoldt (who only played half a year) both rank higher that Pavlich, who was sensational all year.

              One of the knocks on Pavlich is that he has never done anything in finals (due to Freo not being there) and "that is where the real champs stand up". I bet Mike wont compare Pavlich in a side that was thumped by Geelong versus Riewoldt in a side that was thumped by the pies.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Mike's Top 50

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                He is too inconstant to be given that sort of rating
                He has just won a B&F in a final four side.

                Inconsistency does not allow this

                He is so far superior to Delidio it's like comparing fine wine with water.

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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7470

                  #23
                  Re: Mike's Top 50

                  Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                  No. No he doesn't.

                  J. Brown in the top 10 will confirm that. Champion player who had a terrible year (played injured for most games and missed quite a bit).

                  I bet both he and Riewoldt (who only played half a year) both rank higher that Pavlich, who was sensational all year.
                  No he didn't. he had a brilliant first half of the season but was very poor in the last half, particularly the last "quarter" of the year.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43906

                    #24
                    Re: Mike's Top 50

                    Originally posted by EJ Smith
                    He has just won a B&F in a final four side.

                    Inconsistency does not allow this

                    He is so far superior to Delidio it's like comparing fine wine with water.
                    Those two points aren't related. As much as I rate Griffen, I can't see him as a top 20 player in the competition until he puts in more consistent performances.
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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #25
                      Re: Mike's Top 50

                      Wish Mike would take his typewriter,pink shirt and sail off into the sunset!
                      Mike could have his top 50 backflips for 2010!!

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3923

                        #26
                        Re: Mike's Top 50

                        Kade Simpson, Chris Newman - handy players but top 50 in the comp? seriously

                        Grundy - huge improver but top 50?

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                        • Scorlibo
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3064

                          #27
                          Re: Mike's Top 50

                          What is with Brady Rawlings at 22??? I don't care how many possessions he gets, he doesn't impact games enough to be in the top fifty let alone above players like Pavlich, Harvey and Goodes.

                          I don't mind the inclusion of Newman, probably Richmond's best player.
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                          • Flamethrower
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1343

                            #28
                            Re: Mike's Top 50

                            Only 1 Bulldog in the top 20.....Brian Lake at 13.

                            1 Ablett, Gary
                            2 Swan, Dane
                            3 Goddard, Brendon
                            4 Selwood, Joel
                            5 Hayes, Lenny
                            6 Judd, Chris
                            7 Hodge, Luke
                            8 Chapman, Paul
                            9 Thomas, Dale
                            10 Riewoldt, Jack
                            11 Pendlebury, Scott
                            12 Sandilands, Aaron
                            13 Lake, Brian
                            14 Didak, Alan
                            15 Franklin, Lance
                            16 Enright, Corey
                            17 Montagna, Leigh
                            18 Mundy, David
                            19 Green, Brad
                            20 Kelly, James
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #29
                              Re: Mike's Top 50

                              Originally posted by Flamethrower
                              Only 1 Bulldog in the top 20.....Brian Lake at 13.

                              1 Ablett, Gary
                              2 Swan, Dane
                              3 Goddard, Brendon
                              4 Selwood, Joel
                              5 Hayes, Lenny
                              6 Judd, Chris
                              7 Hodge, Luke
                              8 Chapman, Paul
                              9 Thomas, Dale
                              10 Riewoldt, Jack
                              11 Pendlebury, Scott
                              12 Sandilands, Aaron
                              13 Lake, Brian
                              14 Didak, Alan
                              15 Franklin, Lance
                              16 Enright, Corey
                              17 Montagna, Leigh
                              18 Mundy, David
                              19 Green, Brad
                              20 Kelly, James

                              I keep looking for the name Cooney and I just can't find it.

                              Not in the top 20 and not in the top 50.

                              That's extraordinary. He's without a doubt one of the best fifteen players in the country.

                              It's finally happened; Mike's flipped his lid.

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                              • Scorlibo
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3064

                                #30
                                Re: Mike's Top 50

                                ^^^ I agree TR, Mike's gone bonkers. No Cooney, how can that happen? As usual he has snubbed our better players of higher positions, and I cannot believe that he has Dale Thomas at 9. Here I was thinking he never does anything other than run to space near the boundary and execute dinky little chip kicks, but apparently he's a more precious commodity than anything that is on 10 other clubs' lists, including ours.

                                Lake should be ahead of Selwood (what is he doing at 4?), Judd, Chapman, Thomas, Riewoldt and Pendlebury.

                                Oh well, it's just Mike - we always knew he was a reactionary git.
                                'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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