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  • EasternWest
    Hall of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 10002

    #76
    Re: Delistings

    Originally posted by mjp
    Sorry, but this made me laugh. Two very different players - one who wont kick and one who CAN'T kick.
    Which is which? I would rate Morris as a barely ok kick, but smart enough to only kick when he must or his target is wide open.

    Spangher I admit to knowing little about.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7363

      #77
      Re: Delistings

      Originally posted by dfa4pm
      Which is which? I would rate Morris as a barely ok kick, but smart enough to only kick when he must or his target is wide open.

      Spangher I admit to knowing little about.
      Morris = WONT.
      Spangher = CANT.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44631

        #78
        Re: Delistings

        The AFL site is showing the following:

        Jason Akermanis
        Jarrad Boumann
        Tim Callan (ret.)
        Nathan Eagleton (ret.)
        Andrejs Everitt (trd)
        Jarrod Harbrow (GC)
        Brad Johnson (ret.)
        Shane Thorne

        At the moment it looks like Hahn and Tiller survived.
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        • divvydan
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1502

          #79
          Re: Delistings

          It all depends on how this statement from Dalrympie is read..

          Now ahead of the Draft that leaves us with our 4th and two 5th round selections which will be a challenge, but we are working through a process now of targeting players that we think may be available in that range.


          One way of reading it is that those are the only selections we'll use which means one live pick and two rookie upgrades. The other way of reading it is that we'll have three live picks. If we have three live picks, then there are still two spots on the list that have to be opened up as currently we only have enough space (assuming Gilbee and Hargrave move onto veterans list) to use one live selection in the National Draft.

          There is still another list lodgement to come on the 10th November but it seems strange to announce some now and some later, although we did leave Eagleton's contract until this time last year. You'd think the club would know by now if they wanted to keep players so then it would just be a matter of finding a way to do it financially, satisfying both the player and the salary cap.

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10002

            #80
            Re: Delistings

            Originally posted by mjp
            Morris = WONT.
            Spangher = CANT.
            I'd have Morris at WONT/CANT with wont first, reflecting that he knows his limitations. And a man's got to know them. It seems capitals are necessary.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6520

              #81
              Re: Delistings

              Originally posted by anfo27
              A good mate of mine is a blues man and really rates this kid. I've never seen him play but he says he is a beautful long kick but been very injury prone in his 2 years there and thinks that they will rookie him.
              I thought he would be a real gem when he was drafted, Carlton grabbed him at 60 odd which I had as the steal of the draft. Captained SA from memory and was named All Australian as well as SA MVP, good pace, wins enough of his own footy but his skills by foot are elite, he's probably a similiar height and build to Wood (not as explosive). We have a fair array of running half backs but if we could snatch him as a rookie I would be really pleased.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11839

                #82
                Re: Delistings

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                The AFL site is showing the following:

                Jason Akermanis
                Jarrad Boumann
                Tim Callan (ret.)
                Nathan Eagleton (ret.)
                Andrejs Everitt (trd)
                Jarrod Harbrow (GC)
                Brad Johnson (ret.)
                Shane Thorne

                At the moment it looks like Hahn and Tiller survived.
                Disappointingly predictable. I'd rather give Boumann another chance than a guy didn't have a great deal to begin with and has since aged terribly.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14946

                  #83
                  Re: Delistings

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  Disappointingly predictable. I'd rather give Boumann another chance than a guy didn't have a great deal to begin with and has since aged terribly.
                  Even with the pace of a glacier, Hahn would offer us more in 2011 than Boumann.
                  Boumann went backwards last year.
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                  • Bumper Bulldogs
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2966

                    #84
                    Re: Delistings

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Even with the pace of a glacier, Hahn would offer us more in 2011 than Boumann.
                    Boumann went backwards last year.
                    Did he have a reason for this?

                    We've seen the best of Mitch and the game has past him. Could we say this about Boumann?
                    BB.

                    Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: Delistings

                      Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                      Did he have a reason for this?

                      We've seen the best of Mitch and the game has past him. Could we say this about Boumann?
                      Yes I believe

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18027

                        #86
                        Re: Delistings

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Even with the pace of a glacier, Hahn would offer us more in 2011 than Boumann.
                        Boumann went backwards last year.
                        Whilst I jumped off the Boumann bandwagon fairly early this year (hey, I'm fickle), I don't think he went backwards.

                        2010: He played 17 senior VFL games and was in the bests twice.

                        2009: He played 11 senior VFL games and was in the bests once.

                        His last finals game was poor but he had plenty of mates.

                        I think the biggest issue might be the fact that his attitude (desire to work hard and be a professional footballer) hasn't really improved since he arrived at the Club. It's a shame because he has physical attributes that we require but it seems he just doesn't have the (mental) capability to put it all together.

                        That being said, he'd still offer more in defence in 2011 than Mitch Hahn.
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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #87
                          Re: Delistings

                          I'm sure glad some folk on here DON'T hate Mitch Hahn, because the way you talk about him I hate to hear what you's say if you didn't like him..It's BLOODY SHAMEFUL the way you talk about a GREAT CLUBMAN like Mitch, but I guess now that Poor Eagleton has retired you need someone to rag on!!!! I HOPE Mitch stays FWIW. I think this new sub rule would suit him to the ground, but that's just MO. I LOVE all my boys ( now I'll just wait for the rubbish to come my way)

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44631

                            #88
                            Re: Delistings

                            I don't think anyone is bagging Mitch at all but some have come to a realization that he either shouldn't be on the list any more or at least that he will be lucky to be maintained on the list.
                            We all understand that we have the footballers for a limited period given the physical demands of the game and I'd rather not have any player stick around for one season too many.

                            We have a number of players getting near the end of their careers and whilst it would be nice to keep them all for a few more years we must be realistic that its not always in the best interest of the club.
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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6932

                              #89
                              Re: Delistings

                              Originally posted by OLD SCRAGGer
                              I'm sure glad some folk on here DON'T hate Mitch Hahn, because the way you talk about him I hate to hear what you's say if you didn't like him..It's BLOODY SHAMEFUL the way you talk about a GREAT CLUBMAN like Mitch, but I guess now that Poor Eagleton has retired you need someone to rag on!!!! I HOPE Mitch stays FWIW. I think this new sub rule would suit him to the ground, but that's just MO. I LOVE all my boys ( now I'll just wait for the rubbish to come my way)
                              I love Mitch Hahn, Chris Grant, Scott Wynd and Charlie Sutton but don't think any of them should be on our list next year.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14946

                                #90
                                Re: Delistings

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                Whilst I jumped off the Boumann bandwagon fairly early this year (hey, I'm fickle), I don't think he went backwards.

                                2010: He played 17 senior VFL games and was in the bests twice.

                                2009: He played 11 senior VFL games and was in the bests once.
                                He finished 2009 stronger than he finished 2010, and his disposal became far more "safe" towards the end of 2010, simply choosing the short safe option every time. Basically if you can't rebound as a defender you have to play as a pure stopper, and I don't think with Morris & Williams playing we have room for another pure stopper (which is why I think Callan couldn't get a H&A game last year despite good Willy form).
                                He doesn't defend well enough to be the stopper he needed to be to stay on the list, especially considering he was only ever playing on the 3rd best oppositon tall (Faulks & Markovic were ahead of him in 2010).
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