Pies $14M Jumper Deal

[Bornadog]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

What do we lack in terms of equipment, facilities and specialist coaches etc to the powerhouse cashed up sides?

A few additional GPS vests? Gym equipment? An extra coach or two?

What would that cost us? Probably less that $500,000 with the vests and equipment being one off costs. It obviously is, but it doesn't sound like a huge hurdle to find a company that could offset that sort of dollars.

Susan Alberti chipped in to buy some of the equipment. The GPS's we borrow from Vic Uni and don't have enough for all players to wear one, whereas most clubs have one per player. I think from memory they cost $4k each.

Not sure what the answer is to get more sponsors on board.

[GVGjr]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

Susan Alberti chipped in to buy some of the equipment. The GPS's we borrow from Vic Uni and don't have enough for all players to wear one, whereas most clubs have one per player. I think from memory they cost $4k each.

Not sure what the answer is to get more sponsors on board.

Lets say the vests are $5,000 each, 20 of them is just $100,000.
$100,000 could be spent of gym equipment which must make us competitive with other sides.
For $200,000 it seems we would close the gaps with the richer clubs with equipment.

[Bornadog]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

Lets say the vests are $5,000 each, 20 of them is just $100,000.
$100,000 could be spent of gym equipment which must make us competitive with other sides.
For $200,000 it seems we would close the gaps with the richer clubs with equipment.

The biggest issue in the football department is staffing. Wé don't have enough physios and other staff as well as scouts asistants etc.

Your right on the equipment, surely we can do better.

[GVGjr]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

The biggest issue in the football department is staffing. Wé don't have enough physios and other staff as well as scouts asistants etc.

Your right on the equipment, surely we can do better.

And yet we have come a long way in 5 years as the spend has increased a lot since Eade came on board. Obviously we need more but the budget won't stretch that far.

There must be some part timers who can come in and do a specific job without it costing us a fortune. To me it all comes down to setting out a plan and getting some dedicated resources.
Easier said than done but there must be physios who would be reasonable with their costs and I'm sure recruiting staff/scouts can be found to help the club.

We have had a number of former players like the Ox come down and assist so there must be others that would want to expand their skill set whilst assisting the club.

I know its easy to get caught in the day to day running of the club but the issues we face seem to be hurdles more so than barriers.

[Mantis]

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And yet we have come a long way in 5 years as the spend has increased a lot since Eade came on board. Obviously we need more but the budget won't stretch that far.

There must be some part timers who can come in and do a specific job without it costing us a fortune. To me it all comes down to setting out a plan and getting some dedicated resources.

Easier said than done but there must be physios who would be reasonable with their costs and I'm sure recruiting staff/scouts can be found to help the club.

We have had a number of former players like the Ox come down and assist so there must be others that would want to expand their skill set whilst assisting the club.

I know its easy to get caught in the day to day running of the club but the issues we face seem to be hurdles more so than barriers.

We already have some part-timers who come down and assist, both Chris Grant & Wayne Schwass can be seen at training from time to time.... Not sure if these are paid roles or if they could be expanded, but it is an area we are already involved in.

I would think the major area's of concern would be in list management & recruiting. We just don't seem to have enough staff in those areas or perhaps we don't pay enough to ensure we have the highest quality applicants.... I guess the lack of pay could be something to be looked at across the board especially when we lost the services of Monty to Carlton at the end of the '06 season because they offered him about 250% more than we offered for a similiar position.... I'm not sure it would have an influence in all our decisions and while I have no idea of the actual effect and I guess it can't really be measured, but you generally find that the best people in their field earn the big $$'s.

[LostDoggy]

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And yet we have come a long way in 5 years as the spend has increased a lot since Eade came on board. Obviously we need more but the budget won't stretch that far.

There must be some part timers who can come in and do a specific job without it costing us a fortune. To me it all comes down to setting out a plan and getting some dedicated resources.
Easier said than done but there must be physios who would be reasonable with their costs and I'm sure recruiting staff/scouts can be found to help the club.

We have had a number of former players like the Ox come down and assist so there must be others that would want to expand their skill set whilst assisting the club.

I know its easy to get caught in the day to day running of the club but the issues we face seem to be hurdles more so than barriers.

Great post. Whose job description would long-term staffing and strategic workload management fall under? If we don't have a chief of staff type that's probably where it would go.

[GVGjr]

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We already have some part-timers who come down and assist, both Chris Grant & Wayne Schwass can be seen at training from time to time.... Not sure if these are paid roles or if they could be expanded, but it is an area we are already involved in.

I would think the major area's of concern would be in list management & recruiting. We just don't seem to have enough staff in those areas or perhaps we don't pay enough to ensure we have the highest quality applicants....

Regarding the recruitment team I certainly think that is one area that can be covered better without necessarily costing too much. You will find that a lot of recruiting people do the work for no real financial gain. To me it comes more down to organisation skills and getting a bit more from what we already have in place. Increasing the numbers and getting good people might not be that difficult or costly.

If we haven't got the right recruitment people in place then all the GPS vests, running treadmills and weights won't really help the side reach its potential.

[LostDoggy]

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Sue Alberti paid for the bikes in the Mission Elite Learning Centre at the end of last year. Yes we do need more GPS for our players. Have any of you thought of donating to the WB Forever Foundation (tax deductible) where these monies can be allocated to sports equipment. Please consider this option, it does not matter how small the donation maybe, it all helps. I know a lot is asked of our members, but please consider this suggestion. In conclusion, thank you to all the supporters who continue to support our great Club. I know I will never cease backing the Dogs.
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[Bornadog]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

Forget the jumper deal and sponsorship, Collingwood's revenue really comes from pokies. In 2009/10 was $23 million. That is $10 million more than any of the other clubs, with the doggies revenue well under $10 million.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

Sue Alberti paid for the bikes in the Mission Elite Learning Centre at the end of last year. Yes we do need more GPS for our players. Have any of you thought of donating to the WB Forever Foundation (tax deductible) where these monies can be allocated to sports equipment. Please consider this option, it does not matter how small the donation maybe, it all helps. I know a lot is asked of our members, but please consider this suggestion. In conclusion, thank you to all the supporters who continue to support our great Club. I know I will never cease backing the Dogs.

Thanks for the suggestion, and all your great support, 'susie'. I will definitely be looking to support the foundation in this financial year.

Cheers!

[GVGjr]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

Sue Alberti paid for the bikes in the Mission Elite Learning Centre at the end of last year. Yes we do need more GPS for our players. Have any of you thought of donating to the WB Forever Foundation (tax deductible) where these monies can be allocated to sports equipment. Please consider this option, it does not matter how small the donation maybe, it all helps. I know a lot is asked of our members, but please consider this suggestion. In conclusion, thank you to all the supporters who continue to support our great Club. I know I will never cease backing the Dogs.

For a lot of people it might come down to either a choice of chipping in with the debt reduction exercise or the forever foundation. Both are worthy initiatives.

[LostDoggy]

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thanks guys. It is your choice. Debt reduction is an absolute priority. Please help in any way you can. We now have a wonderful showcase at the WO where we can all be so proud. It brings tears to my eyes each time I visit the place. It was not that long ago that the WO was a rat infested, raw sewerage seeping out onto the concrete and the change rooms were disgusting. Now look at what we have created. It is our home and it belongs to all of us. Thank you.
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[Twodogs]

Re: Pies $14M Jumper Deal

thanks guys. It is your choice. Debt reduction is an absolute priority. Please help in any way you can. We now have a wonderful showcase at the WO where we can all be so proud. It brings tears to my eyes each time I visit the place. It was not that long ago that the WO was a rat infested, raw sewerage seeping out onto the concrete and the change rooms were disgusting. Now look at what we have created. It is our home and it belongs to all of us. Thank you.

So it was a bit like the change rooms at the MCG on grand final day?