2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3565

    #16
    Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

    Collingwood
    W Bulldogs
    Geelong
    St. Kilda
    Fremantle
    Hawthorn
    Melbourne
    Carlton
    ---------------
    Adelaide
    Sydney
    Richmond
    Port Adelaide
    Essendon
    Nth. Melbourne
    Gold Coast
    Brisbane
    West Coast

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #17
      Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

      Originally posted by Ozza
      Collingwood - no reason to suggest they won't improve enough to stay on top.
      Bulldogs - well, I have to be optimistic....but I think we could have a better balanced side this year.
      St.Kilda - will still be mighty hard to toss.
      Geelong - Still a very good side.
      Hawthorn - lack a bit of class in the midfield at times...but will be strong.
      Fremantle - Will be hard to beat at home...still pretty young side.
      Carton - I think the sub rule will be favourable to them - lots of midfield depth.
      Sydney - Whether they are 5th through to 10th may depend on how many games Bradshaw gets on the park for.
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Adelaide - quite like their young crop.
      Essendon - lots of pace...tipping they'll have a good start to the year.
      North Melb - If Petrie plays they will at least have an avenue to goal. Not bad Mids.
      Port Adelaide - think they will improve slightly.
      Melbourne - Exceeded expectations last year...think they will have a let down year.
      Richmond - still very young - but imrpoving.
      WCE - hard to see them winning outside of WA.
      Brisbane - Weak list - but older heads will get them over the line a few times.
      Gold Coast - Can't see them winning any games in the second half of the year....youthful exuberance might get them over the line 2 or 3 times at best.
      Nice read Ozza. Good to see a bit of commentary as well. Like to expand a little on balance in our list ?- interested to know your view, not taking a pot shot. If some youngsters step up this season, I feel the balance will be ok. alot of things have to go right though. Challenging burden above their years falls to Jones and Grant. Youth may prevail. What's your view?
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15445

        #18
        Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
        Nice work Ozza. Good to see a bit of commentary as well. Where do we lack balance? If some youngsters step up this season, I feel the balance will be ok. alot of things have to go right though. What's your view?
        Ozza did say that we will be better balanced this year.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6401

          #19
          Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Nice read Ozza. Good to see a bit of commentary as well. Like to expand a little on balance in our list ?- interested to know your view, not taking a pot shot. If some youngsters step up this season, I feel the balance will be ok. alot of things have to go right though. Challenging burden above their years falls to Jones and Grant. Youth may prevail. What's your view?
          As Mantis pointed out - I think you may have just read my post incorrectly - as I was saying I believe we WILL be better balanced this year.

          It's been a relatively common theme and fairly accepted that we lacked pace in the forward line last year - and we seem to have injected some with not only our recruits - but also the foreseeable improvements from both younger guys - and guys who will hopefully be injury free.

          With Hahn, Johnno, Aker (for periods) and a half-rat-power-Higgins last year - we were a bit clunky down forward (for lack of a better term). I'm excited that we appear to have looked to directly address that.

          I also think Williams looks to have improved enough since mid-last year to be seen as a genuine key back - not just the match up for the 3rd tall or similar - which may enable us to use Morris on some other dangerous forwards.

          A fit Cooney in the midfield, and possibly having Higgins, Sherman and perhaps Wallis/Libba gives us some more midfield depth and takes some pressure off Boyd and Griffen who carried much of the load late in the year.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #20
            Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

            Originally posted by Ozza
            As Mantis pointed out - I think you may have just read my post incorrectly - as I was saying I believe we WILL be better balanced this year.
            Ok, fair enough. so we are second on your prediction, and what are the main factors there. It's hard to see that pace will now be an issue.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

              Ok. Going to cheat a little and have a crack at this round 5:

              Collingwood
              Western Bulldogs (still think we'll get it together - assumes we beat hawthorn!)
              Geelong
              Hawthorn
              Carlton
              Sydney
              Essendon
              Fremantle
              Adelaide (due to the draw only)
              St Kilda
              West Coast
              North Melbourne
              Richmond
              Melbourne
              Port Adelaide
              Brisbane
              Gold Coast

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              • anfo27
                WOOF Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2002

                #22
                Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                First time I have looked at this thread and am amazed so many have us 2nd on the ladder. I know it was before the season started but I just don't know what some posters have seen that I haven't. I didn't see anything in the pre season that would suggest any improvement in ladder position for this year.
                We need to take our rose coloured glasses off and take a reality pill. We are behind Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong, Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle & maybe Sydney. I would say we are definately better than Brisbane, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, Richmond, North Melbourne, West Coast & thats it.

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                • Flamethrower
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1387

                  #23
                  Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                  The top 7 spots are sewn up....

                  Collingwood
                  Hawthorn
                  Fremantle
                  Essendon
                  Geelong
                  Carlton
                  Sydney Swans

                  with only the order to be sorted out.

                  That leaves us in a dog fight with Adelaide, St Kilda, West Coast, Melbourne, and Richmond for 8th.

                  North, Brisbane, Port and Gold Coast can start planning for 2012.

                  My ladder predictor today has us sneaking into 8th with 10 wins, with the draw costing St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond, all finishing 2 points behind us (9 1/2 wins).
                  Footscray member since 1980.

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #24
                    Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                    Originally posted by anfo27
                    First time I have looked at this thread and am amazed so many have us 2nd on the ladder. I know it was before the season started but I just don't know what some posters have seen that I haven't. I didn't see anything in the pre season that would suggest any improvement in ladder position for this year.
                    We need to take our rose coloured glasses off and take a reality pill. We are behind Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong, Carlton, Essendon, Fremantle & maybe Sydney. I would say we are definately better than Brisbane, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, Richmond, North Melbourne, West Coast & thats it.
                    Behind Carlton?? Not sure even Carlton supporters would agree.
                    7 points behind Freo in WA .... big maybe with Sydney.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • anfo27
                      WOOF Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2002

                      #25
                      Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Behind Carlton?? Not sure even Carlton supporters would agree.
                      7 points behind Freo in WA .... big maybe with Sydney.
                      Absolutely we are.

                      I guess we will find Sydney soon enough

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66697

                        #26
                        Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                        We win the next four games and we will sneak into the 8.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15445

                          #27
                          Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          We win the next four games and we will sneak into the 8.
                          The likelihood of that happening is what... 100/1?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66697

                            #28
                            Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            The likelihood of that happening is what... 100/1?
                            probably
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #29
                              Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              We win the next four games and we will sneak into the 8.
                              And from there, be the first team to win it from 8th spot.

                              Picken to win the Brownlow.

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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5113

                                #30
                                Re: 2011 AFL Ladder Predictor

                                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                                And from there, be the first team to win it from 8th spot.

                                Picken to win the Brownlow.
                                Panos for the Coleman. Bookmark it
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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