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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7575

    2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

    2011 NAB Cup trial rules and explanations:

    1. A player awarded a 50m penalty which takes them inside the 50m area can elect either to kick from outside 50 for nine points, or kick from inside 50 for six points.
    It was felt that a player awarded a 50-metre penalty which would advance him inside 50, should be given the opportunity to decide whether he kicks from outside 50m for nine points, or take the full 50m penalty to kick from inside 50 for six points.

    2. Official scorer can assist with scoring decisions by reference to technology.
    If a video replay is immediately available, the goal umpire can consult with the official scorer to determine the correct decision. There is no avenue for players to refer decisions.

    3. Boundary umpires pay free kicks for holding and high contact at stoppages.
    As an extension to the 2010 NAB Cup trial, boundary umpires may pay free kicks for obvious holding or high contact infringements. They will not pay any other form of free kick.

    4. Free kick against player who drags or holds ball under opponent.
    As an extension of the rule trialled in the 2010 NAB Cup, the umpire may pay a free kick against a player who drags the ball under his opponent, and may also pay a free kick against a player who holds a ball under his opponent, when he is trying to knock it out.

    5. Last touch out of bounds.
    To be trialled in the first round of matches only, a free kick will be paid against the last player to touch the ball before it went out of bounds. A free won’t be paid if the umpire is unable to determine who touched the ball last, if the ball goes out of bounds from a spoil after a marking contest or if the ball goes out of bounds as a result of a defensive smother to a kick or a handball.

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 17832

    #2
    Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
    4. Free kick against player who drags or holds ball under opponent.
    As an extension of the rule trialled in the 2010 NAB Cup, the umpire may pay a free kick against a player who drags the ball under his opponent, and may also pay a free kick against a player who holds a ball under his opponent, when he is trying to knock it out.
    Like this.

    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
    5. Last touch out of bounds.
    To be trialled in the first round of matches only, a free kick will be paid against the last player to touch the ball before it went out of bounds. A free won’t be paid if the umpire is unable to determine who touched the ball last, if the ball goes out of bounds from a spoil after a marking contest or if the ball goes out of bounds as a result of a defensive smother to a kick or a handball.
    Hate this.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Greystache
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Dec 2009
      • 9775

      #3
      Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      1. A player awarded a 50m penalty which takes them inside the 50m area can elect either to kick from outside 50 for nine points, or kick from inside 50 for six points.
      It was felt that a player awarded a 50-metre penalty which would advance him inside 50, should be given the opportunity to decide whether he kicks from outside 50m for nine points, or take the full 50m penalty to kick from inside 50 for six points.
      Like this.

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      5. Last touch out of bounds.
      To be trialled in the first round of matches only, a free kick will be paid against the last player to touch the ball before it went out of bounds. A free won’t be paid if the umpire is unable to determine who touched the ball last, if the ball goes out of bounds from a spoil after a marking contest or if the ball goes out of bounds as a result of a defensive smother to a kick or a handball.
      Agreed- Hate this!
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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7575

        #4
        Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

        With regard to the 'no out of bounds' rule being implemented for the first round of the NAB Cup, its the same as when they played the Lightening Premiership about 10 years ago.

        Remember its only 2 x 20 minute halves so the idea here is to keep the game flowing.

        Personally I don't agree with it, but understand the rationale.
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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11724

          #5
          Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

          Originally posted by comrade
          Like this.



          Hate this.
          agreed
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5075

            #6
            Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

            Number 4 is going to be very difficult to police, and number 5 is a defenders worst nightmare. The boundary is no longer your friend.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

              Originally posted by soupaman
              Number 4 is going to be very difficult to police
              Exactly what I was going to say. I hate the proliferation and tuning of these subjective free kicks, it just confuses umpires, players and fans.

              I dislike all these changes except for 2. the use of Vid tech on goal decisions.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14794

                #8
                Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                5. Last touch out of bounds.
                To be trialled in the first round of matches only, a free kick will be paid against the last player to touch the ball before it went out of bounds. A free won’t be paid if the umpire is unable to determine who touched the ball last, if the ball goes out of bounds from a spoil after a marking contest or if the ball goes out of bounds as a result of a defensive smother to a kick or a handball.
                I know it is a shortened version of the game, but why would the AFL do this when they are trying to slow the game down during the regular season?
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • ratsmac
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2009
                  • 3974

                  #9
                  Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                  Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                  5. Last touch out of bounds.
                  To be trialled in the first round of matches only, a free kick will be paid against the last player to touch the ball before it went out of bounds. A free won’t be paid if the umpire is unable to determine who touched the ball last, if the ball goes out of bounds from a spoil after a marking contest or if the ball goes out of bounds as a result of a defensive smother to a kick or a handball.

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                  Love it, but for the NAB Cup only. I think this will make for a great spectacle. It will make defenders win their own ball.
                  They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                  Brian Fantana.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                    I hope we go out in the first round and win the big one in October ( i think it is October now)

                    Please

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                    • Desipura
                      WOOF Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4344

                      #11
                      Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                      Originally posted by ratsmac
                      Love it, but for the NAB Cup only. I think this will make for a great spectacle. It will make defenders win their own ball.
                      Hate it, so if you are on the boundary line under pressure from an opponent you can handball into your opponents body with the ball going out of bounds. You earn a free kick for that? Its ridiculous!

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                      • The Coon Dog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7575

                        #12
                        Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                        Originally posted by Desipura
                        Hate it, so if you are on the boundary line under pressure from an opponent you can handball into your opponents body with the ball going out of bounds. You earn a free kick for that? Its ridiculous!
                        Has anyone read the forward by David Parkin to Doug Hawkin's autobiography?

                        Parkin was up in the coaches box on the Doug Hawkins wing as Doug was first on the scene to a loose ball directly below. The nearest 3 players to Hawk were all Fitzroy players who corralled him, knowing he had nowhere to go. As they approached, Hawk proceeded to handball the ball onto the boot of the nearest Lion, the ball the looped up over the boundary line. Out on the full. Free kick to Doug Hawkins. Parkin still shakes his head at that!
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                        • Twodogs
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27645

                          #13
                          Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                          Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                          As they approached, Hawk proceeded to handball the ball onto the boot of the nearest Lion, the ball the looped up over the boundary line. Out on the full. Free kick to Doug Hawkins. Parkin still shakes his head at that!

                          Doug was a genius when it came to playing football. Another time he found himself in the same situation so he handballed the ball to his opponent, tackled the guy and got a free kick!


                          What's this about 2 x 20 minute halves?
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344

                            #14
                            Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                            Has anyone read the forward by David Parkin to Doug Hawkin's autobiography?

                            Parkin was up in the coaches box on the Doug Hawkins wing as Doug was first on the scene to a loose ball directly below. The nearest 3 players to Hawk were all Fitzroy players who corralled him, knowing he had nowhere to go. As they approached, Hawk proceeded to handball the ball onto the boot of the nearest Lion, the ball the looped up over the boundary line. Out on the full. Free kick to Doug Hawkins. Parkin still shakes his head at that!
                            You are a beauty TCD, I was thinking the exact same thing when I wrote about this! I do recall the game as well, it was on the wing near the EJ Smith stand for memory.

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                            • Desipura
                              WOOF Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 4344

                              #15
                              Re: 2011 NAB Cup - Trial Rules

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Doug was a genius when it came to playing football. Another time he found himself in the same situation so he handballed the ball to his opponent, tackled the guy and got a free kick!
                              Intelligent footballer, not so off the field. Minson is the other way around. Would prefer the Hawk version.

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