Andrejs Everitt to be a giant in Sydney

[MrMahatma]

Re: Andrejs Everitt to be a giant in Sydney

I think the key is finding him a role that he can own. He has the ability to become a good player, but the question is where.

Good luck to him. I rate the kid - no animosity towards him at all. Personally, I think we'll have done better out of the trade with Ves, mostly due to needs and the fact Ves has a set role. But Dre could be anything...

[Mantis]

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I think the key is finding him a role that he can own. He has the ability to become a good player, but the question is where.

What role do you think that is?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Hopefully Everitt can carve out a career for himself, but he definitely lacks a certain edge that you really need to make it at AFL level. He's not strong enough for his height, and obviously slower than the genuine midfielders. Sydney need to determine where he can play his best footy. If it's as a KPP, he needs to bulk up and forget about the rebounding game.

I like Everitt, wish he made it with us. He should be a better player than the likes of Ray, who has done well at St. Kilda, so hopefully he can do well.

[Mofra]

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I think the key is finding him a role that he can own. He has the ability to become a good player, but the question is where.

He couldn't do that with us, but I'd guess Sydney have defined him as a tall running defender by their comments so far.

I remember him being interviewed after a VFL game and he was asked his best position - even he didn't know. To me, that's a negative.

I still get the feeling this trade will be spectacular for neither party, but will be marked as a win/win.

[Ghost Dog]

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He couldn't do that with us, but I'd guess Sydney have defined him as a tall running defender by their comments so far.

I remember him being interviewed after a VFL game and he was asked his best position - even he didn't know. To me, that's a negative.

I still get the feeling this trade will be spectacular for neither party, but will be marked as a win/win.

On the club site, before, there was an interview where he stated he wanted to play on the wing.
I remember at the time being told he was too slow but I disagreed. According to a second hand source in his first time trial he ran against 35 others and came third ( 2007 ) . They will play him down half back to build him up and thats what they need at the moment, but as he gets confidence, I reckon he will get more opportunities on the wing or in the forward line.
I reckon he will do well at Sydney barring injury but will be a bit hot cold. He has a streak of creative flair. Example some rather ambitious things ( passes ) he tried to do in the Darwin game that did not quite work. At the time, it was like WTF, but he is a young guy who just needs better experience to back himself.
Can see how Eade's style of coaching to favour hard - consistent no nonsesne work horse types did not suit him. Hoopers debut is a good example. Proved his worth in the VFL and just a nuggety hard worker. Andrejs maybe had stars in his eyes but wasn't able to demonstrate it at training.
Anyway, Sydney have taken a punt - It takes all kinds and there have been plenty of freakish players who didn't always show it on the training track but turned it on in games.

[Desipura]

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On the club site, before, there was an interview where he stated he wanted to play on the wing.
I remember at the time being told he was too slow but I disagreed. According to a second hand source in his first time trial he ran against 35 others and came third ( 2007 ) . wingman.
I reckon he will do well at Sydney barring injury but will be a bit hot cold. He has a streak of creative flair. Example some rather ambitious things ( passes ) he tried to do in the Darwin game that did not quite work. Can see how Eade's style of coaching to favour hard - consistent no nonsesne work horse types did not suit him. However, it takes all kinds and there have been plenty of freakish players who didn't give a stuff about training.

You obviously are not referring to Everitt.

[Ghost Dog]

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You obviously are not referring to Everitt.

Well who else would I be referring to Desi?

[Desipura]

Re: Andrejs Everitt to be a giant in Sydney

Well who else would I be referring to Desi?

I never saw Everitt do anything freakish. Sure he should some ability in his first year, but freakish, Im not too sure about that.

[Ghost Dog]

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Freaky - wrong word - Surprising. not in terms of his ability, but to come out of nowhere and open your eyes you with a sudden burst of effort.
There have been plenty of players who were laconic on the track but grew in the spotlight. Freaky in terms of this.

Paul Van Der Har . Smoked like a chimney and had to be dragged to training. But his battles with Peter Knights are some of the great highlights of VFL. Thrived on the big stage. these days? Would not get a game. Yet, he was able to turn it on, on the day. I think Everitt is a bit like this IMO. Hot and Cold. Show pony. needs the attention before he will give the effort.

[GVGjr]

Re: Andrejs Everitt to be a giant in Sydney

Freaky - wrong word - Surprising. not in terms of his ability, but to come out of nowhere and open your eyes you with a sudden burst of effort.
There have been plenty of players who were laconic on the track but grew in the spotlight. Freaky in terms of this.

One of my main criticisms of Robert Murphy a couple of seasons back was that he was too laconic and for a skillful guy made too many skill errors.
Everitt hasn't reached Murphy's talent level but I see some similarities between he and Murphy.
Remains to be seen if Sydney can take him to another level but I look at him as a missed opportunity for us.

[boydogs]

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Everitt will fit in well at Sydney, where all their defenders are rebound specialists. This quality is what impressed us all in his debut year. If we gave him as much of a go as Tom Williams he would be further along IMO.

[Mofra]

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Everitt will fit in well at Sydney, where all their defenders are rebound specialists. This quality is what impressed us all in his debut year. If we gave him as much of a go as Tom Williams he would be further along IMO.

Our gameplan is based on rebound defenders still being able to defend. Williams can at least put body-pressure on an opponent, Everitt doesn't.
Good luck to him but on what was shown last year, we need a small forward more than we need a fringe tall who hasn't cemented a spot or a best position in the side.

[Jasper]

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What role do you think that is?

I remain terrified he will become Adam Goodes V2.0.
Athletically he is certainly that gifted.

He clearly will have a role model in Goodes and the second chance mentality will probably improve his work ethic as will some maturity.

Let's hope Vespremi can do similar for us

[Greystache]

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I remain terrified he will become Adam Goodes V2.0.
Athletically he is certainly that gifted.

He clearly will have a role model in Goodes and the second chance mentality will probably improve his work ethic as will some maturity.

Let's hope Vespremi can do similar for us

Goodes would beat Everitt over 100m by 30m, and over 20m by 10m. That's Everitt's problem in a nutshell, he's a bit of everything and nothing of anything. Too slow to play small, not physically strong enough to play tall, not a strong enough mark to play forward, and not disciplined enough to play as a defender. If he's to make it at AFL level it will probably be as a free running defender and they're a dime a dozen.

[MrMahatma]

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What role do you think that is?

I honestly don't know. And I guess that's the difference between him and other Swans success stories. The ones that do well have all had defined roles and been told to go and make it theirs. The Swans seem to think Dre is a defender, so I guess we'll see if that is the case.