GSW - Recruiting Targets

[Maddog37]

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But there were massive whispers Marc Murphy was gone to gws but he has re-signed so there still seems to be a bit of guess work going on.

[azabob]

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I don't have any inside info but I suspect he is gone, just as I suspect Taylor Walker and Alipate Carlisle are gone, and Tom Scully is gone...

It is interesting that at least 3 clubs involved in strong rumours regarding the Giants WB, Adel and PP also lost players to Gold Coast.

What does that indicate about the clubs / players?

Anything at all?

[mjp]

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Ports strategy of declaring they will force players to declare their intentions by sitting down with them mid way through the season is a good one I think.

Why? If the player says he has already signed (or says, "I still have a contract, I will wait till the end of the season thanks") what are they going to do? Stop picking them?

I can see that working a treat. In a battle for a spot in the 8, PA decide to send their best key defender back to the SANFL because he wont enter into discussions about a contract next year...

I don't know. Faced with a choice between Adelaide and Sydney, I pick Sydney. Faced with a choice between 5 years, 2.2 Million and 3 years, 1.2 million I pick 5 years. They are going to get players - they just are. And we can talk about loyalty and stuff all we like, but it is a profession for these guys (a short-lived one) and there is only one (max 2) decent contracts a player can get.

[chef]

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We are going to lose someone. We might have already...all the GCS rumours came true - why would it be different with the Giants?

I don't have any inside info but I suspect he is gone, just as I suspect Taylor Walker and Alipate Carlisle are gone, and Tom Scully is gone...

Apparently Scully has been offered $4 Million over 5 years and there's rumblings Palmer from Freo has accepted to join GWS.

[Ghost Dog]

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Why? If the player says he has already signed (or says, "I still have a contract, I will wait till the end of the season thanks") what are they going to do? Stop picking them?

I can see that working a treat. In a battle for a spot in the 8, PA decide to send their best key defender back to the SANFL because he wont enter into discussions about a contract next year...

I don't know. Faced with a choice between Adelaide and Sydney, I pick Sydney. Faced with a choice between 5 years, 2.2 Million and 3 years, 1.2 million I pick 5 years. They are going to get players - they just are. And we can talk about loyalty and stuff all we like, but it is a profession for these guys (a short-lived one) and there is only one (max 2) decent contracts a player can get.

Nobody said anything about sending anyone back to a lower tier. Bit punitive. As if Geelong were ever going to send Ablett back to the VFL for instance, even if they were 100% sure.
In that situation, at least you have some chance to consider list adjustment. Krakeur just walked out and nobody had any idea.

Just like any employer, You know you are going to have to fill a hole so knowing allows you to look ahead a little.

just the new ' staffing' landscape and clubs need minimal dispruption. One way of going about it.

[Ghost Dog]

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Apparently Scully has been offered $4 Million over 5 years and there's rumblings Palmer from Freo has accepted terms.

wow. That's a bit more than I would have thought. I heard rumours he was very satisfied at the D's but with money like that.....

[Greystache]

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Apparently Scully has been offered $4 Million over 5 years and there's rumblings Palmer from Freo has accepted to join GWS.

I've got it on pretty good authority Tom Scully has been offered $1.6mil over 3 years- So $533K per season.

Given he is supposedly their number one target you would think Ward would be offered substantially less, and Wood less again. At a guess I Would say Ward's looking at $400-450k max. I'm not sure that's much more than we'd offer and we're the known entity.

[chef]

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I've got it on pretty good authority Tom Scully has been offered $1.6mil over 3 years- So $533K per season.

Given he is supposedly their number one target you would think Ward would be offered substantially less, and Wood less again. At a guess I Would say Ward's looking at $400-450k max. I'm not sure that's much more than we'd offer and we're the known entity.

I've got a mutual friend with one of the assistants from Melbourne and this is the rumour doing the rounds at the club.

[Mofra]

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I've got it on pretty good authority Tom Scully has been offered $1.6mil over 3 years- So $533K per season.

I would expect Melbourne wouldn't that far short of GWS' offer if the above is true - they have spent 3 years front-loading contracts with the view of retaining the kids when they develop.

[Mantis]

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Given he is supposedly their number one target you would think Ward would be offered substantially less, and Wood less again. At a guess I Would say Ward's looking at $400-450k max. I'm not sure that's much more than we'd offer and we're the known entity.

But it's going to get tight.

We have re-signed Cooney, Griffen and Lake in the last 18 months and would be on healthy wages. Our 27-29 year olds would also be on good wickets so to say that our offer to Cal could be up near $400k might be stretching it. Pretty sure Higgins is out of contact come the end of 2011 and if he improves (which it looks like he will) he won't come cheap either. Then you have Wood as well who looks ready to really improve.

It's going to be a tough year to re-sign everyone and to satisfy all the players requirements, James Fantasia is certainly going to earn his money if he can do so, but one would think we are going to lose a couple along the way.

[Remi Moses]

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We are going to lose someone. We might have already...all the GCS rumours came true - why would it be different with the Giants?

I don't have any inside info but I suspect he is gone, just as I suspect Taylor Walker and Alipate Carlisle are gone, and Tom Scully is gone...

Reckon he'll stay heard from good authourity. Can we just sign our blokes instead of playing this will he or won't he!!

[The Coon Dog]

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Can we just sign our blokes instead of playing this will he or won't he!!

How do you do that Remi? You can go to a player with the best offer imaginable, but if his manager says we want to wait until the end of the season, what can you do?

[EasternWest]

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But it's going to get tight.

We have re-signed Cooney, Griffen and Lake in the last 18 months and would be on healthy wages. Our 27-29 year olds would also be on good wickets so to say that our offer to Cal could be up near $400k might be stretching it. Pretty sure Higgins is out of contact come the end of 2011 and if he improves (which it looks like he will) he won't come cheap either. Then you have Wood as well who looks ready to really improve.

It's going to be a tough year to re-sign everyone and to satisfy all the players requirements, James Fantasia is certainly going to earn his money if he can do so, but one would think we are going to lose a couple along the way.

What are your thoughts as to whom the couple may be?

[LostDoggy]

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What are your thoughts as to whom the couple may be?

And why a couple?

[Mantis]

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What are your thoughts as to whom the couple may be?

Not sure.

As we have seen with most other reasonably successful teams over the past few years (esp. Geelong) your developing 'fringe' players are the ones who usually go looking for more opportunity/ $$'s. For that reason players like Hill, Addison & Reid (who probably has no real currency due to lack of footy, but could on back of good year) would be the most obvious ones.

As 'mjp' stated all the rumours in the past have been pretty spot on in regards to player poaching so for that reason you would think that Ward is going to be hard to hang onto... but I hope we can.

I guess if we keep all those you may have to start to cutting from the older players to ensure you keep your young talent together which isn't a great prospect, but it may have to happen.... Who knows??

It's certainly going to be an interesting year and will only get worse with free agency.