The Sub Rule - spread the word.

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  • Throughandthrough
    Coaching Staff
    • Nov 2007
    • 3204

    The Sub Rule - spread the word.

    OK, need to get this off my chest. Have heard many people (including some AFL players) discuss the sub rule and I think they are missing a key component.

    You do NOT (looking at you Chad Cornes) need to nominate the sub before the game starts.

    It can be anyone of your four players.


    BUT one of them will have to sit there and where the orange safety vest, BUT it is allowed to be swapped between players until (presumably) someone comes on and is declared "the sub".

    (They need to advise the interchange steward that they are, and they can not have come on before)

    So, for example, if you have two on ballers, a backman and a ruckman on the bench, and IF your main ruckman went down at the first bounce, you could nominate him as your sub (if you wanted to!)

    Will be interesting to watch this pan out.
  • boydogs
    WOOF Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 5845

    #2
    Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

    Originally posted by Throughandthrough
    they can not have come on before
    That means you need to select the sub before you start your interchanges. It would have to pretty much be the warmup or opening bounce for you to about face and change who it is going to be.

    I suspect the team sheets will include a nominated sub on there as well.
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    • The Coon Dog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7579

      #3
      Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

      T & T, are you 100% sure?

      According to an article in another thread, it says this:

      Clubs will need to officially name their substitute - who will wear a green vest while on the bench - when the final teams are lodged 90 minutes before the bounce.

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      • Scorlibo
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 3096

        #4
        Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

        It will take about 5 minutes of game time for the other three players to be interchanged and for the sub to be set in stone.
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        • Throughandthrough
          Coaching Staff
          • Nov 2007
          • 3204

          #5
          Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

          yeah I am sure tcd......
          But I have been wrong before!

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          • The Adelaide Connection
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2009
            • 2805

            #6
            Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

            I hope that when the dust settles on the AFL 2011 season this is the rule that will finally make them stop and say:

            "You know what, this tampering isn't panning out, lets just leave all the rules alone for a few years."

            We can only hope.

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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7579

              #7
              Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

              This is today's Herald Sun:

              Clubs must nominate the designated substitute on the team sheets released 90 minutes before a game. That substitute must wear a green vest from that point, even when he joins the traditional warm-up on the ground, and until he's activated to play.

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              And this from another Herald Sun article:

              Teams will play with a bench of three interchange players and one substitute this season, with the sub named 90 minutes before the first bounce.

              To avoid confusion, the sub will immediately pull on a bright green vest.

              "Whenever the players go on to the field after that 90-minute threshold, the substitute player must wear the bright green vest," Gieschen said.

              "Even if he's in his suit. Even if he's out there, just walking around bouncing the ball and having a look at conditions, he's got to have the vest on."


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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                T&T TCD has Torn you new one.

                Interesting take on the use of the rule tho

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                  Originally posted by The Coon Dog

                  "Even if he's in his suit. Even if he's out there, just walking around bouncing the ball and having a look at conditions, he's got to have the vest on."[/I][/B]
                  Geez the AFL are a bunch of wankers.

                  Remember guys, don't kick it to the bloke in the suit.



                  It's going to be a good look in the GF team photo.

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                  • Throughandthrough
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 3204

                    #10
                    Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                    Originally posted by Shnookie
                    T&T TCD has Torn you new one.

                    Interesting take on the use of the rule tho

                    indeed!


                    Am completely wrong!

                    Dunno where i got the idea though, I read it somewhere or heard it from someone who should have known!

                    MAybe <<<< clutching at straws>>>>> that was the rules for the NAB Cup?

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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7444

                      #11
                      Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                      Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                      indeed!


                      Am completely wrong!

                      Dunno where i got the idea though, I read it somewhere or heard it from someone who should have known!

                      MAybe <<<< clutching at straws>>>>> that was the rules for the NAB Cup?
                      Nice try, but nope.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                        Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                        indeed!


                        Am completely wrong!

                        Dunno where i got the idea though, I read it somewhere or heard it from someone who should have known!

                        MAybe <<<< clutching at straws>>>>> that was the rules for the NAB Cup?
                        T&T. I think it's called a DREAM

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67295

                          #13
                          Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                          Controversial substitution formula cops a blast from North Melbourne coach Brad Scott


                          The sub rule is probably the biggest joke idea the AFL has ever implemented and already its only the preseason and we have one coach complaining and suggesting maybe we need three subs.

                          Mark my words, this rule is going to change again next year, the AFL have got it completely wrong all due to a knee jerk reaction to the number of rotations.
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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #14
                            Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Controversial substitution formula cops a blast from North Melbourne coach Brad Scott


                            The sub rule is probably the biggest joke idea the AFL has ever implemented and already its only the preseason and we have one coach complaining and suggesting maybe we need three subs.

                            Mark my words, this rule is going to change again next year, the AFL have got it completely wrong all due to a knee jerk reaction to the number of rotations.
                            The rules committee have made many worse calls than this one.

                            It seems to me that the only issue is that it makes the coaches job a bit harder.


                            I really don't want to end up with US style offensive team and defensive team.


                            I can clearly remember the days when we had 2 reserves.

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                            • Hotdog60
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5962

                              #15
                              Re: The Sub Rule - spread the word.

                              I just thought I would revisit the sub position.

                              With the up and coming rotation cap arriving next season and our lack of a versatile 2nd ruck starting me thinking of a different strategy that may help our relieving ruck.

                              Our 2nd ruck options which needs to be resting in the forward line have been a bit below par in regards to goal scoring. Could we do away with him there.

                              Could we have our sub as a 1 st ruck, with 2 rucks sharing a game of two halves. Could a ruckman stay on the ground for a full two quarters without hitting the wall.
                              By doing this we could have a more dedicated forward that can score goals.

                              The first problem will be if we have a injuries to a small or mid field type and all we have in the bank is a 1st ruck.

                              May not be a problem with a forward replacing the mid and we go back to the resting ruck in the pocket scenario.

                              With the cap I'm think the game may slow down enough for this to work.

                              Does have any merit or just would not work. I had a deep thinking moment
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