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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Concussion rule

    I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?
  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    #2
    Re: Concussion rule

    Originally posted by Chops
    I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?
    Who determines what player is & isn't suffering concussion?

    As you say Chops, a few grey areas. Might be a few 'inner ear infections' & the like this season.
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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #3
      Re: Concussion rule

      No-one can suggest it in an formal format without being threatened with defamation but every doctor in the league will do precisely what the coach says.

      'He's just winded' will be getting a run fairly often, I guess.

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5719

        #4
        Re: Concussion rule

        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
        Who determines what player is & isn't suffering concussion?

        As you say Chops, a few grey areas. Might be a few 'inner ear infections' & the like this season.
        They could easily ask for proof through the concussion test (assuming they still do a concussion test?). Have the doctors show their test, proving that the player is not concussed, before they're let back on the ground.
        Obviously this is still open to corruption of sorts, because players can just reduce their baseline score meaning it's easier to 'prove' they're not concussed.

        I think it's a good idea, clubs were too liberal with letting concussed players back onto the ground.
        Poor form to announce it two days before the start of the season though.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 15060

          #5
          Re: Concussion rule

          Isn't the test if a player was stretchered off?
          If it is, we'll see alot more trainers carrying/helping players off.
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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7471

            #6
            Re: Concussion rule

            Originally posted by Chops
            I hear today that the afl is bringing in a rule that if you are concussed you aren't allowed back on. Fair enough its sensible to me, however it's opens up many grey areas one of them is intentional concussing opposition players. If the bulldogs reached the gf I'd be asking Barry to knock out as many as he can. Without a sending off rule what's stopping anyone from doing this?
            Very good point Chops.

            It's a noble idea by the AFL but I can't see it working well. As TCD said lots of inner ear infections.

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            • AndrewP6
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 8142

              #7
              Re: Concussion rule

              Great idea in theory. However, as the saying goes, "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not." (attributed rather amusingly to either Yogi Berra or Albert Einstein!)
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Concussion rule

                Seeing the injuries from Round 1, I seriously want the AFL to bring in two Subs , one the normal Sub- one off one on, the other the Medical Sub for a concussed or injured player- one off one on . If the AFL want to keep things level with no subterfuge or deliberate high tackles the Medical Sub is the easiest way to do it. Also with the finals, I would want the Club doctors of the Club's who did,nt qualify for the finals to be made available as neutral Doctors to ascertain the injury before the Medical Sub, this would eliminate a Club trying to inject fresh legs before the end of a game by exploiting the Medical Sub

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: Concussion rule

                  Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                  No-one can suggest it in an formal format without being threatened with defamation but every doctor in the league will do precisely what the coach says.

                  'He's just winded' will be getting a run fairly often, I guess.
                  As usual, SS is right on the money.


                  Apparently Mitch Clark was just winded.

                  If you missed it he got collected and was walking like a new-born foal. His opponent was actually holding him up and waved for the trainers.

                  He wasn't subbed out and came back on later.

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                  • AndrewP6
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8142

                    #10
                    Re: Concussion rule

                    Originally posted by West-Dog
                    Seeing the injuries from Round 1, I seriously want the AFL to bring in two Subs , one the normal Sub- one off one on, the other the Medical Sub for a concussed or injured player- one off one on . If the AFL want to keep things level with no subterfuge or deliberate high tackles the Medical Sub is the easiest way to do it. Also with the finals, I would want the Club doctors of the Club's who did,nt qualify for the finals to be made available as neutral Doctors to ascertain the injury before the Medical Sub, this would eliminate a Club trying to inject fresh legs before the end of a game by exploiting the Medical Sub

                    .
                    Sounds logical - which means it won't happen.
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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      #11
                      Re: Concussion rule

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      As usual, SS is right on the money.


                      Apparently Mitch Clark was just winded.

                      If you missed it he got collected and was walking like a new-born foal. His opponent was actually holding him up and waved for the trainers.

                      He wasn't subbed out and came back on later.
                      I don't agree at all, while they may be working for a footy club, they are still reportable to the medical practitioners board. They can be dis-barred for in proper practice, they won't risk their livelihoods for a job they do for the enjoyment. This will be sorted out within a couple of weeks.
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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: Concussion rule

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        I don't agree at all, while they may be working for a footy club, they are still reportable to the medical practitioners board. They can be dis-barred for in proper practice, they won't risk their livelihoods for a job they do for the enjoyment. This will be sorted out within a couple of weeks.
                        He should have been done for malpractice on Saturday night.

                        If you think the coaches aren't making the decisions for them you're delirious.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #13
                          Re: Concussion rule

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          He should have been done for malpractice on Saturday night.

                          If you think the coaches aren't making the decisions for them you're delirious.
                          I can tell you I'm not, a family friend was a club doctor in the AFL for years. He lost count the number of times he told the coach "get ****ed, he's not right to go back on"

                          Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #14
                            Re: Concussion rule

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            I can tell you I'm not, a family friend was a club doctor in the AFL for years. He lost count the number of times he told the coach "get ****ed, he's not right to go back on"

                            Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
                            Yeah, and the Brisbane doctor said the scratches to the Brisbane player from Jose Romero's fingernails were 'bleeding profusely'.

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                            • Topdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7471

                              #15
                              Re: Concussion rule

                              Originally posted by Greystache

                              Just because a player was stunned doesn't mean he's got a concussion, Mitch Clark came back on not long after and looked fine. chances are he'll play this week.
                              Tue and Mitch was most likely fine.

                              However was a concussion test done? The answer is no as he came back on in 3 minutes and the test has 30 questions and several physical tests too.

                              AFL cleared Brisbane.

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