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  • The Pie Man
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2008
    • 3498

    The Trengove Tackle

    What are your thoughts

    Is it reportable?

    If it is, is 3 weeks excessive?
    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs
  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10110

    #2
    Re: The Trengove Tackle

    I understand the decision based on the need to protect the head. The duty of care exists, and if a player gets injured I think it's very easy to say they offending player breached their duty of care.

    I also think the cookie-cutter approach to evaluating incidents in wrong. In isolation this tackle was perfectly fine, the falling motion drove Dangerfield into the ground rather than any malicious intentions or actions from Trengove. It's just one of those unfortunate ones where a player gets hurt - not a huge chicken wing or slinging tackle.

    I guess they've now set the precedent that regardless of any intention, if your action causes injury to another player's head you've breached your duty of care.

    Is the appeal being heard tonight?
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      #3
      Re: The Trengove Tackle

      Don't mind the reporting so much even if it is borderline. But I do think the penalty was too much.

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      • The Pie Man
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2008
        • 3498

        #4
        Re: The Trengove Tackle

        It's reportable; I find it hard to believe Melbourne highlighted that as a 'perfect' tackle in their post game, didn't seem any need for the sling, and the rules are clear on that

        Three weeks is contentious
        Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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        • Drunken Bum
          Rookie List
          • Sep 2007
          • 435

          #5
          Re: The Trengove Tackle

          Originally posted by The Pie Man
          Three weeks is contentious
          contentious?? 3 weeks is ridiculous, i am so close to giving up AFL altogether it isnt funny. If it wasn't for the dogs i wouldn't watch a game.
          My life is a very complicated drinking game.

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          • Flamethrower
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2009
            • 1355

            #6
            Re: The Trengove Tackle

            Don't have a problem with it. The AFL want to outlaw the "slam tackle" because the risk of serious injury is so great. Dangerfield was concussed and had to be subbed out of the game.

            The minimum suspension under the MRP guidelines for such an incident is 3 weeks, which is what Trengove got, and is consistent with cases in previous years involving Mumford and Milburn.

            You do the crime, you do the time.
            Footscray member since 1980.

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15319

              #7
              Re: The Trengove Tackle

              Campbell Brown gets 2 weeks for elbowing Callan Ward in the head in an off the ball incident.

              Jack Trengove gets 3 weeks for a fierce tackle to a player in possession of the ball.

              Something just isn't right there.

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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7471

                #8
                Re: The Trengove Tackle

                How injured a player gets and medical reports should play absolutely no part in determining the suspension of a player.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: The Trengove Tackle

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Campbell Brown gets 2 weeks for elbowing Callan Ward in the head in an off the ball incident.

                  Jack Trengove gets 3 weeks for a fierce tackle to a player in possession of the ball.

                  Something just isn't right there.
                  My thoughts exactly too Mantis - the justice wheels have fallen off at the tribunal I think!

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3498

                    #10
                    Re: The Trengove Tackle

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Campbell Brown gets 2 weeks for elbowing Callan Ward in the head in an off the ball incident.

                    Jack Trengove gets 3 weeks for a fierce tackle to a player in possession of the ball.

                    Something just isn't right there.
                    Originally posted by Magic Griffen
                    My thoughts exactly too Mantis - the justice wheels have fallen off at the tribunal I think!
                    It's out of whack, agreed.
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: The Trengove Tackle

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Campbell Brown gets 2 weeks for elbowing Callan Ward in the head in an off the ball incident.

                      Jack Trengove gets 3 weeks for a fierce tackle to a player in possession of the ball.

                      Something just isn't right there.
                      Adrian Anderson was on SEN last night talking about it. He couldn't say much about the Trengove tackle as it was up for appeal, but he did say the Campbell Brown incident has sparked a review at the end of the year, and he said incidents regarded as behind the play may have their penalties increased.

                      I agree that the cookie cutter approach doesn't work, but he did also say the match review panel has the power to send a case direct to the tribunal where they didn't feel the penalty prescribed by the guidelines fit the incident, so I'd say the real problem lays at the feet of the match review panel and their hesitation in admitting they get it wrong. They don't want to look timid or indecisive.

                      He did state, on the Trengove tackle, that the rules around that kind of tackle are very strict due to medical reasons — they keep having club doctors pleading with them to rub it out of the game due to the extreme high risk of spinal/neck injuries.

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: The Trengove Tackle

                        I can't believe a player has been reported for a tackle.


                        I can just hear Kanga Kennedy now, "DON"T THINK. DO! Just don't do anything rough. OK?"

                        Or Barass to Healy, "Gerard, I'll shut up when you give me soft tackles!"

                        T-Shirt Tommy, "Kevin, you're a back pocket plumber, so try not to hurt anyone"

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11123

                          #13
                          Re: The Trengove Tackle

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Campbell Brown gets 2 weeks for elbowing Callan Ward in the head in an off the ball incident.

                          Jack Trengove gets 3 weeks for a fierce tackle to a player in possession of the ball.

                          Something just isn't right there.
                          That thing that isn't right is called Adrian Anderson.

                          Demetriou is one very smart cookie - he makes himself look indispensible to the AFL Commission by hiring incompetent morons and yes-men beneath him.

                          Here is a transcript of every single Adrian Anderson interview conducted in the last 4 years:

                          "Crowds are up"
                          "Ratings are up"
                          "The Match Review Panel is made up of football people of the highest integrity"

                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: The Trengove Tackle

                            Haven't seen Trengrove's tackle, but from all reports it was accidental.

                            Yet Campbell Brown's elbow to the head was deemed 'non-intentional'? If that's not intentional, nothing's intentional.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: The Trengove Tackle

                              Absolutely disgusting and inconsistent decision.

                              These guys are killing the game.

                              Fine, one game max and then I still wouldn't be happy.

                              Campbell brown must be laughing to himself.

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