Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

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  • FrediKanoute
    Coaching Staff
    • Aug 2007
    • 3859

    #61
    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

    HOw do you define great? Is great the ability to perform consistently at a high level over a long period of time? Or is great the ability to do the freakishly amazing things consistently?

    Junior is a great player. But I wouldn't pay to go to the footy just to watch him play. I would though pay just to see Gary Ablett Snr play. His ability to do the amazing - things his peers couldn't do - consistently makes him a true great of the game. He didn't need to play 350 games to be a great.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21991

      #62
      Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

      Snr played in a different time, and was a different footballer. Again, an unhelpful but natural comparison between eras.

      Jnr is a great of the game, and played a lot of his best footy off Broadway.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13312

        #63
        Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

        Top 5 but his Dad is still the best. I'm biased though I saw a lot of Snr live living opposite KP in the early 90s.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6402

          #64
          Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

          Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

          I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27664

            #65
            Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

            Originally posted by Ozza
            Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

            I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!
            I'd have Ablett sr first but Templeton ahead of any of the others. I don't rate Ablett jr as highly as almost anyone else does. He's good but he's not in my top 10.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Nuggety Back Pocket
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2064

              #66
              Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

              Individually Ablett snr was a more brilliant player but Ablett jnr was a better team player. Ablett jnr played in a Premiership and won 2 Brownlow Medals which his Father was unable to achieve.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13312

                #67
                Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                I have Templeton 1978-1980 seasons as the best I've ever seen.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 21991

                  #68
                  Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  Its a really hard question. I think Jnr has had the better career overall, but line them up in the playground....there's probably nobody that I've seen that you'd pick before Snr....maybe Carey - but there's a whisker between them.

                  I'd have both Ablett's, Carey and Lockett as my best 4 players ever, and my order probably depends on what day you catch me!
                  I didn't see Matthews play aside from when I was about five or six and he tore our hearts out in a preliminary final, but being too young to think too much about anything other than little league and my next meat pie I don't remember much of it!

                  My list is pretty much the same as yours given that.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21991

                    #69
                    Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    I'd have Ablett sr first but Templeton ahead of any of the others. I don't rate Ablett jr as highly as almost anyone else does. He's good but he's not in my top 10.
                    I'm so surprised to read that.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Ozza
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6402

                      #70
                      Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      I didn't see Matthews play aside from when I was about five or six and he tore our hearts out in a preliminary final, but being too young to think too much about anything other than little league and my next meat pie I don't remember much of it!

                      My list is pretty much the same as yours given that.
                      Leigh Matthews must have been phenomenal if he is regarded as (arguably) the best ever. Retired when I was 2 years old.

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15410

                        #71
                        Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        I'm so surprised to read that.
                        More surprised by that or there is a contract thread? Or that TD knows a thing or two about teaching how to kick at goal?
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27664

                          #72
                          Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          I'm so surprised to read that.
                          24 shots at goal in one game. Kicked 6 on debut as a 17 yo. 118 goals in a team that wins 7 games and finishes 2nd last. 91 goals off the back of no preseason at all in 1979, 2 Colemans, a Brownlow. His career effectively over at the age of 23.

                          How can a player have a better career than that when he's robbed of the best 7 years then that? Wayne who? Oh Carey? Saw them both play, KT was twice the player. Without the injury and if he'd played the same amount of years that Ablett did he would have kicked 2000 goals and won 5 Brownlows.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67299

                            #73
                            Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            24 shots at goal in one game. 118 goals in a team that wins 7 games and finishes 2nd last. 91 goals off the back of no preseason at all in 1979, 2 Colemans, a Brownlow. His career effectively over at the age of 23.

                            How can a player have a better career than that when he's robbed of the best 7 years then that? Wayne who? Oh Carey? Saw them both play, KT was twice the player. Without the injury and if he'd played the same amount of years that Ablett did he would have kicked 2000 goals and won 5 Brownlows.
                            He was unbelievable
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                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21991

                              #74
                              Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                              Originally posted by azabob
                              More surprised by that or there is a contract thread? Or that TD knows a thing or two about teaching how to kick at goal?
                              I'm unsure. Just flat out flabbergasted. So flabbergasted that the gut Jake Stringer's running around with after four weeks of footy seems normal to me.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27664

                                #75
                                Re: Gary Ablett Jnr is a superior footballer to his father Ablett Snr: Malcolm Blight

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                He was unbelievable
                                Sure was.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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