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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

    Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber. Fair dinkum, if asking "What?" is demonstrative or aggressive, I'll bloody well go "he".
    He goes on to say that the Bryce Gibbs kick should've been disallowed, as he 'didn't kick directly over his mark' - Gibbs just needs to claim it is his "natural arc" Oh, that's right, that call belongs to Franklin.

    He also gives the OK to the dive taken by Davey. Apparently giving someone a mouthful after you goal is fine, but don't dare be 'demonstrative' to an ump. I almost laughed when the host (name?) asked if we're getting 'a bit precious'. Giesch accompanied the Wood/Davey footage with a "BANG" sound effect, possibly to make it appear worse than it actually was.

    Utter tripe.

    From the AFL website:
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66703

    #2
    Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

    Originally posted by AndrewP6
    Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber. Fair dinkum, if asking "What?" is demonstrative or aggressive, I'll bloody well go "he".
    He goes on to say that the Bryce Gibbs kick should've been disallowed, as he 'didn't kick directly over his mark' - Gibbs just needs to claim it is his "natural arc" Oh, that's right, that call belongs to Franklin.

    He also gives the OK to the dive taken by Davey. Apparently giving someone a mouthful after you goal is fine, but don't dare be 'demonstrative' to an ump. I almost laughed when the host (name?) asked if we're getting 'a bit precious'. Giesch accompanied the Wood/Davey footage with a "BANG" sound effect, possibly to make it appear worse than it actually was.

    Utter tripe.

    From the AFL website:
    http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsartic...0/default.aspx
    Giesch is a bigger fool than I thought. All Huddo said was What. It should have been Huddo's free anyway.
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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #3
      Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Giesch is a bigger fool than I thought. All Huddo said was What. It should have been Huddo's free anyway.
      Yep, but he was 'demonstrative' and 'aggressive' in the way he said it. And we can't have that, can we?
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

        Originally posted by AndrewP6
        Yep, but he was 'demonstrative' and 'aggressive' in the way he said it. And we can't have that, can we?
        I've been watching Giesch's umpire review on AFL.com since round 17 and it seems to be purely a self-justification forum. He's so scared of admitting that they interpret some of the rules three different ways in the same game that I'm giving up on it. I'll just have to go back to yelling at the more ridiculous calls over the fence. Lucky I've got level 1 reserved seating as I'm still fooling myself that one day they'll actually absorb what I'm trying to instruct. If not; hell - it's kind of cathartic to lose my voice once a week.......

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        • Missing Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8501

          #5
          Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

          Come on now!! Did ANYONE really expect Geisch to say umps got a free against Dogs was wrong ?????

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15447

            #6
            Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Giesch is a bigger fool than I thought. All Huddo said was What. It should have been Huddo's free anyway.
            From where the umpire was standing you could clearly see Hudson's arm over Ryder's shoulder so the correct decision was made.

            If the umpire was on the boundary side the free-kick would have been reversed.

            As far the 50m goes the umps have been paying these all year so Hudson should have just zipped it.... It was stupid to put himself in a position where the umpire could make this call.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66703

              #7
              Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

              Originally posted by Mantis
              From where the umpire was standing you could clearly see Hudson's arm over Ryder's shoulder so the correct decision was made.

              If the umpire was on the boundary side the free-kick would have been reversed.

              As far the 50m goes the umps have been paying these all year so Hudson should have just zipped it.... It was stupid to put himself in a position where the umpire could make this call.
              A very harsh penalty that cost a goal for saying "What". Ben actually thought it was his free.

              What the hell is going on with Footy, it is becoming a joke watching matches with decisions like this.
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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15447

                #8
                Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                Originally posted by bornadog
                A very harsh penalty that cost a goal for saying "What". Ben actually thought it was his free.

                What the hell is going on with Footy, it is becoming a joke watching matches with decisions like this.
                He didn't say 'What', he screamed 'WHAT!!!'.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66703

                  #9
                  Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  He didn't say 'What', he screamed 'WHAT!!!'.
                  so that is worth a 50 metre penalty.
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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15447

                    #10
                    Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    so that is worth a 50 metre penalty.
                    It's been paid all year. Look I don't agree that it should be a 50m penalty, but the precedence was set along time ago and our players should no better, especially the more experienced ones.

                    On the subject it would be interesting to know how many 50m penalties we have given away this year... It would be many more than in previous seasons.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66703

                      #11
                      Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      It's been paid all year. Look I don't agree that it should be a 50m penalty, but the precedence was set along time ago and our players should no better, especially the more experienced ones.

                      On the subject it would be interesting to know how many 50m penalties we have given away this year... It would be many more than in previous seasons.
                      Since the Carlton match we have been giving away at least 2 a game and they have all cost goals. Some of them for the most trivial reasons like stepping over the mark. The other 50 metre penalty vs Essendon was also ridiculous.

                      The original reason why the penalty was increased from 15m to 50m was due to Kevin Sheedy instructing his players to hold up play by grabbing players. Now the penalty has gone to the most technical of technical interpretations and lost the reason why it was introduced. Now you touch a player and your gone. The whole thing needs to be reigned in, but it won't as the AFL never admit mistakes.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6401

                        #12
                        Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Since the Carlton match we have been giving away at least 2 a game and they have all cost goals. Some of them for the most trivial reasons like stepping over the mark. The other 50 metre penalty vs Essendon was also ridiculous.

                        The original reason why the penalty was increased from 15m to 50m was due to Kevin Sheedy instructing his players to hold up play by grabbing players. Now the penalty has gone to the most technical of technical interpretations and lost the reason why it was introduced. Now you touch a player and your gone. The whole thing needs to be reigned in, but it won't as the AFL never admit mistakes.
                        Completely agree. Its beyond a joke.
                        The absolute worst is when a player marks on a lead, and his opponent is trailing him at pace, obviously trying to make the spoil. The player with the footy turns and the defender is pinged instantly - when he has barely had time to stop.
                        There's zero common sense applied - surely umpires are entitled to clearly call the player back 1 or 2 metres of whatever it is.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66703

                          #13
                          Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          Completely agree. Its beyond a joke.
                          The absolute worst is when a player marks on a lead, and his opponent is trailing him at pace, obviously trying to make the spoil. The player with the footy turns and the defender is pinged instantly - when he has barely had time to stop.
                          There's zero common sense applied - surely umpires are entitled to clearly call the player back 1 or 2 metres of whatever it is.
                          At least a warning to come back on the mark, but as you say no common sense.
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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13235

                            #14
                            Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                            Frankly, I am about a bee's dick away from turning my back on this game.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: "Bad look" - Giesch gives Hudson free the thumbs up

                              Common sense?

                              The umps love the theatre of the 50. It lets them be the centre of attention for a few seconds, they get to massively influence a game that was otherwise just unfolding normally without them, they get to show everyone who's boss, they get to wave their arms like an air traffic controller and sprint for 50 metres at a million miles an hour.

                              Who wouldn't love that?

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