2011 Brownlow Thread

[Desipura]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Wasn't that Maxwell?

Sure was.

[Bornadog]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Brownlow voting – club-by-club


Adelaide
1 Scott Thompson 12
2 Nathan van Berlo 9
3 Patrick Dangerfield 7

Brisbane
1 Tom Rockliff 9
2 Simon Black 9
3 Daniel Merrett 6

Carlton
1 Chris Judd 23
2 Marc Murphy 19
3 Bryce Gibbs 12

Collingwood
1 Dane Swan 34
2 Scott Pendlebury 24
3 Travis Cloke 13

Essendon
1 Jobe Watson 15
2 Brent Stanton * 6
3 Michael Hurley 6

Fremantle
1 Nathan Fyfe 13
2 Matthew Pavlich 9
3 Aaron Sandilands 5

Geelong
1 Joel Selwood * 17
2 Steve Johnson 12
3 Joel Corey * 11

Gold Coast
1 Gary Ablett 23
2 Jared Brennan 3
3 Nathan Bock * 3

Hawthorn
1 Sam Mitchell * 30
2 Lance Franklin * 20
3 Luke Hodge 17

Melbourne
1 Brent Moloney * 19
2 Colin Sylvia * 10
3 Jordie McKenzie 6

North Melbourne
1 Andrew Swallow 16
2 Drew Petrie 11
3 Brent Harvey 8

Port Adelaide
1 Robbie Gray 6
2 Travis Boak 4
3 David Rodan 3

Richmond
1 Trent Cotchin 15
2 Dustin Martin 12
3 Nathan Foley 6

St Kilda
1 Nick Dal Santo 28
2 Leigh Montagna * 10
3 Brendon Goddard 9

Sydney
1 Adam Goodes 19
2 Ryan O'Keefe * 12
3 Jude Bolton 10

West Coast
1 Matt Priddis 19
2 Dean Cox 18
3 Luke Shuey 12

Western Bulldogs
1 Matthew Boyd 24
2 Ryan Griffen 7
3 Callan Ward 6

[Topdog]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

If he/she did have a bet, he/she would have cleaned up.



Going by the above quotes, you're not the greatest judge of the brownlow are you?

I copped my fair whack from punting against Swan and I'll admit to being super wrong about that one. I outlayed $2500 this year on the Brownlow and got a return of $2350 so it's been a wasted year. Only $50 of that was on Swan @ $11.00.

Griff not getting at least 10 is ridiculous but he did come 2nd in our count so not sure why you would use that to criticise me.

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Wasn't that Maxwell?

Excuse me, I was mistaken. I can't tell one filth member from the next.

[Maddog37]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Excuse me, I was mistaken. I can't tell one filth member from the next.

Is that called Filthism?

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

3 Daniel Merrett 6

Hawthorn
1 Sam Mitchell * 30
2 Lance Franklin * 20
3 Luke Hodge 17

Like him or hate him my highlight of this years brownlow was seeing someone who is not a midfield player get into the twenties!

[GVGjr]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Quite possibly the worst votes ever awarded in a match. The other one that had me falling off my chair was Gary Ablett getting 2 votes against the Dogs up on the Gold Coast when Liam Picken kept him down to low 20's possessions and beat him all ends up. Boydy missing out on votes against Freo in Perth was plain stupidity - he was absolutely outstanding that night and despite us losing he was the clear BOG that night. Marc Murphy getting BOG against us was also somewhat eyebrow-raising - had a good game but not that good.

Almost fell off my chair when these votes were read. Had Boydy down for a guaranteed 3 this round. I thought we time warped back to a time when everyone was playing under 11's and players were getting votes for getting their first ever kick.

I think the below says it all:

Round 5 v Fremantle
3 - Kepler Bradley
2 - Robert Murphy
1 - David Mundy

Player Name K H D M HO T FF FA G B
Matthew Boyd 28 17 45 5 1 7 3 1 0 0
Kepler Bradley 12 4 16 7 4 0 1 0 4 1
Robert Murphy 15 5 20 2 0 0 1 0 0 0
David Mundy 15 14 29 4 1 7 0 2 2 0

Enough said....

[Topdog]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

The amazing part is he got 7 free kicks so was obviously in the umps mind all game.

[westdog54]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Round 5 v Fremantle
3 - Kepler Bradley
2 - Robert Murphy
1 - David Mundy

Player Name K H D M HO T FF FA G B
Matthew Boyd 28 17 45 5 1 7 3 1 0 0
Kepler Bradley 12 4 16 7 4 0 1 0 4 1
Robert Murphy 15 5 20 2 0 0 1 0 0 0
David Mundy 15 14 29 4 1 7 0 2 2 0

Enough said....

Bradley FFS????

The mind boggles.

[Happy Days]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Bradley FFS????

The mind boggles.

Bradley did torch Lake that night, but 3 votes is outrageous.

Boyd was so far in front of everyone else that night. I'm so sick of the thought that a player's team needs to have won for them to have been any good.

[Mantis]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Boyd was so far in front of everyone else that night. I'm so sick of the thought that a player's team needs to have won for them to have been any good.

How can this be the case when Murf got the 2 votes in said game?

[Happy Days]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

How can this be the case when Murf got the 2 votes in said game?

Do you seriously not think that preference is given to the winning team, or are you just trying to be argumentative? Boyd was clearly the best player and got nothing.

Ask Chris Grant/James Hird if it's the case.

[Mantis]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Do you seriously not think that preference is given to the winning team, or are you just trying to be argumentative? Boyd was clearly the best player and got nothing.

Ask Chris Grant/James Hird if it's the case.

Cool the jets.

You stated 'I'm so sick of the thought that a player's team needs to have won for them to have been any good.'

I replied that Murphy was deemed to be good in that game and received 2 votes.

The whole notion that the winning team gets preference in terms of votes is a different arguement and one which you didn't really raise with your initial comment.

[Topdog]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Even that is slowly changing. Heck Ablett got 23 votes this year.

[LostDoggy]

Re: 2011 Brownlow Thread

Even that is slowly changing. Heck Ablett got 23 votes this year.

Is that evidence of change, or simply evidence of umps being star-conscious? Dane Swan was a middling poll-getter when he wasn't considered a star, he played better last year than this yet polled less, now that he's an established 'gun' umps seem happier to give him the votes.

Ditto Ward's votes in Rd 24. He did nothing, but had been in the news all week so the umps noticed him more than anyone else.

The Brownlow is not so much a measure of the best player as it is a measure of what umps notice in a game, and evidence of star-struckness as much as anything (another symptom of which is how much they love using a star's first name over and over during a game, to show how chummy they are).